Here's a tough question:

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Whose theology? Mainstream theology?


You see, when you make a comment, such as you just made, you put the topic of theology in a box... Do you even know what the word theology means? It means the study of God... I am not trying to be condescending but your comments are becoming increasingly vitriolic and inaccurate in regards to my comments on almost every thread.







[edit on 19-11-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

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ok, in this case theology would be something in the context of my question. the box is set up by the premise for the simple reason that we need to actually have a discussion. no box and we can talk about anything

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
is something good because god commands it, or does god command it because it's good?

SpeakerofTruth and Madness,

The "Box" used here is a placebo issue. A counterfit. It is also a question format very similar to what the Pharisees used to try to trip Him up.

You cannot from a human standpoint put the label of good or evil on diety. This is why it is a counterfit position. A placebo. It is obvious from the lines after the one quoted that it substitutes human reasoning and logic.

The two sentances attempting to frame the quote above are all human. Nothing religious about them. They are mens philosophy ..not Gods. It is rationalizing. Just as were doing the Pharisees. This is." Talmud. This is Eastern Philosophys.

This is that to which I was alluding in my first post on this thread page 1.

Notice the concept of could morality exist without God as it is inserted at the end of the first post by Madness.
Then contrast this concept with what I posted to someone called "Superevoman" on the thread here in Faith, Spirituallity and Theology under the heading of "Western Religion has killed more people than cancer.

Superecvoman uses the very same time warp technique so popular in thinking and philosophy similar to Madness.

Now notice the response ...that you dont have to go back in a historical time warp all that far to shoot holes in this type of statement.

In modern times less than 150 years ago...you have a clear record of millions upon millions killed by enlightened men schooled in the religion/philosophy of Karl Marx and Fredrick Engles. In Russia, IN the Orient under the Chinese and also in more recent times in Cambodia. This continues unto today in other nations but not on this scale.

By the way Madness..would the philosophy of Karl Marx and Fredrick Engles ..in recent times be considered opression and dehumanization of people? This is recent times and the bible was not allowed to be lived to its Godly fruitition in these nations mentioned..even unto today refering to China.

This technique is good philosophy...it is just junk against the time ruler or scale of history.

Once you understand this nonsense being used so effectively upon people who are easily sidetracked by such default placebos..you realize how little history or Bible both that Believers actually know.
I have often stated that there is such a level of ignorance about almost everything and anything in my Christian Bretheren...Both in History and in Bible knowlege.

This technique is exactly how many politicians work. They shuffle the shells around to get you to miss which shell the pea is under. The truth of thier technique is that the pea is not under any of the shells. This is also how politics often works. You are never to know the pea is not under any of the shells while they substitute a pre determined unbiblical reasoning as if it was holy due to its logic and reason of men. It is and can be no such thing next to the Soverignty of God. This is precisely why mens logic and reason must be substituted for the Holyness of God.
This is also the struggle recorded from the begining of mens records...in one format after another. How to substitute mens philosophy and religion for Gods Way. This is not God's Way.

As stated...most Christians are not aware of this technique and are easily sidetracked to debating placebos/counterfits.

Learn to spot the counterfit/counterfits. You will find yourself surrounded by them on all sides. Continually.

I know the name of the counterfitter ..by name.

Thanks,
Orangetom