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Topic started on 13-11-2007 @ 06:37 AM by SkepticOverlord
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One Actor, One Room, Seven Characters: 9/11.
Traumatized by the September 11th attacks, one man struggles to dismantle official history, at the expense of his sanity and even his life. Grappling
with multiple realities - and multiple personalities - he must retreat into his mind in pursuit of the truth. In a fictional film about non-fictional
events, there is a place where belief and faith will blind you, where nothing is sacred, and to get there all you have to do is ask:
"Who Killed John O'Neill?"
a dead art film by ty rauber and ryan thurston
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 09:39 AM by ThichHeaded
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I have 2 things to say..
1st thing is why are we showing old videos here?? What is the point in This?? I really don't understand it..
Things are important for people to see.. As stupid as it sounds I think you guys need to Show a few of Alex Jones video's.. Yes he is a wackjob but
he brings valid points up in some of his documentaries.
2nd thing.
I understand what this guy is going thru.. I am sick of looking at so many things and cant make sense of it all.. There really isn't anything none of
us can do.. We are all screwed because people don't wake up to the truth.
They would rather watch football than notice a rigged election. They would sit there and watch Britney Spears cut her hair off than look at fact.. I
freaking hate it really.. I have literally quit watching TV cause TOP NEWS: Anna Nicole Smiths kid is going up for adoption.. not Look we are fighting
a war for oil..
WTF EVER!!!
Oh well.. Leads me to be severely antisocial and distant from everything.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 10:02 AM by NovusOrdoMundi
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"Who Killed John O'Neill?" is a very good video. Tons of information. I suggest if you're watching it and want to pick up a few things, have a pen
and paper ready. Unless you've spent months upon months of researching every corporation and person involved in this, you're most likely going to
hear a few names and places that you didn't know of. So be ready to start writing
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 12:19 PM by ADVISOR
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 12:49 PM by St Udio
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Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
"Who Killed John O'Neill?" is a very good video.
Tons of information. I suggest if you're watching it and want to pick up a few things, have a pen and paper ready. (...)
i had my pen and paper at the ready'.....
but i still missed any citing both North Scottsdale airport & flight training schools in its proximity or the Goodyear airport which has Oxford
Aviation
as a draw for all those numberous middle-eastern pilots-in-training
Goodyear airport is 20 mi west of Phoenix & Scottdale airport,
& one of the 8 pilots/co-pilots on 9-11 was there in AZ for +10 years...
serving as a group leader for many groups of young Arab men striving to become pilots.
i'm pretty sure agent O'Neill was aware of this nest of 'watched-but-not-constrained' people-of-interest
An operation which secretly cultivated & developed future zealots...
maybe a video on 'Why J.P.O'Neill became a target' is in the offing...
who knows
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 12:51 PM by Rhain
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
In a fictional film about non-fictional events, there is a place where belief and faith will blind you, where nothing is sacred, and to get there all
you have to do is ask:
"Who Killed John O'Neill?"
a dead art film by ty rauber and ryan thurston
Thank you, I did not realize this was a fictional film. I watched this 6 months ago and took it as fact.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 12:52 PM by Full Circle
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Good video, its been out for over a year now i think, worth watching.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 02:17 PM by yahn goodey
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i dont agree with you completely but i do somewhat-----i hate how depraved our countries (english speaking)have become and how senseless our
governments blindly lead us-----having worked for the government 34+ years and suffered at the hands of crooks/supervisors that the ignorent fellow
workers adore because the hollywood actor pretenders turn on the charm for the simple but turn it off for those that are clued into their
duplicity-------i cant wait for the whole rotten mess to go down the drain.i might not mind dying to fight for the righteous but for government crooks
i wouldnt get in the way of those that want to eliminate them.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 02:34 PM by Hal9000
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I have started watching this movie a couple of times before, and had to stop because the presentation is a bit strange IMO. I get the feeling that it
is nothing but the ravings of someone who has lost touch so it brings in the question of how valid the information is. This is not a movie I would
recommend to Joe Blow down the street because it may cause more harm than good. Maybe I am wrong. I will try to watch it again when I have time.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 02:54 PM by marg6043
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The video is a fictional representation of what the powers that be has done to our nations in order to fight another war in the name of profits for
almost every war that has been fought in modern times is always and agenda behind it.
Occurs this is just my take of it and just a personal opinion.
I have seen many videos before, compilations of what is the truth or not, so I guess this is a matter of just believing or not depending how
comfortable people are with their own lives.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 03:01 PM by Rockpuck
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reply to post by SkepticOverlord
An excellent book to read on this subject is Blow The House Down.
It was written by an ex CIA officer who was stationed in the ME. I found it enlightening as to why 9/11 probably happened, and possibly who was
behind it. 
Anyways, great video, can't wait to see what ATS comes out with next!
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 03:11 PM by twitchy
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Thanks for posting this video SO, as alot of you know I have an open challenge for anyone to debunk this. Thus far the challenge goes unanswered...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I think it's a dangerous precept to call it fiction though, highly reccomend watching the whole movie before you form an opinion. It's about as
fictitious as Oliver Stone's JFK, skeptics beware
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 04:48 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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I watched the first part and plan on watching the rest over the next week or so..
I can certainly sympathize with the guy.. The whole feeling as if one were to lose one's mind and the whole bit. I still tear up every time I watch
the WTCs fall. It is something that I will never forget.
However, is one discrepancy in the first half of the movie that just glares in my mind. Radical fundamentalism is not as recent as the 70s.. There are
stronger ties between radical Islam and the Nazis than with the CIA...
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 07:31 PM by Tuning Spork
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I got four minutes into this and couldn't watch any more.
Is the theory here that the George W. Bush orchestrated the complex, perfect murder of one "John O'Neill" the day after he took a job at the World
Trade Center?
The man who made this film obviously has talent as an image and sound editor. But, as a storyteller, not so much.
Pardon me if I'm talking out of turn  , but I think the first goal of a successful film maker should be not to annoy me.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 08:28 PM by billybob
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this video presents fact as fiction.
it is not strictly "fiction".
the names, dates, and motives are totally NON-FICTION. only the fictional characters' fictional reations to the REAL INFORMATION are fictional.
watch this movie and learn deep truth about the way the world turns.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 09:09 PM by Tuning Spork
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Just because it presents "fact as fiction" does not mean it's own fiction is, therefore, fact. This film is fiction disguised as fact
trying to masquerade itself as fantasy.
Given the choice, I'd rather watch The Birds.
Edit to add: Now THERE was a film maker...!
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 09:28 PM by twitchy
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Originally posted by Tuning Spork
I got four minutes into this and couldn't watch any more.
And yet you feel qualified to comment on it?
That's what gets me about todays' typical skeptics, they don't want to know. Why do we bother?
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 09:34 PM by billybob
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Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Just because it presents "fact as fiction" does not mean it's own fiction is, therefore, fact. This film is fiction disguised as fact
trying to masquerade itself as fantasy.
facts can be checked.
did you check any of the "fictional" facts from this film?
you can't be bothered, because you know that we're all "dum-dums", right, gazoo?
who need facts when you have your own belief system?
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 10:01 PM by twitchy
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Hey spork, take a look at these guys...
I had always thought it was just a cute cultural icon thing, but there's a hidden moral there that took me a long time to understand. These guys
aren't just being good little monkeys, the reason these guys can't see, hear, or speak evil, is because they have thier eyes covered, their ears
blocked, and their mouths gagged.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 10:44 PM by Tuning Spork
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Originally posted by twitchy
Originally posted by Tuning Spork
I got four minutes into this and couldn't watch any more.
And yet you feel qualified to comment on it?
That's what gets me about todays' typical skeptics, they don't want to know. Why do we bother?
A response, also, to Billy Bob:
Hmm. Oh, Dear. Such virtriol.
I found this film to be unwatchable just because of the earnestness of the director. I'd made no declaration of my opinion of it's content other
than this...:
Is the theory here that the George W. Bush orchestrated the complex, perfect murder of one "John O'Neill" the day after he took a job at the
World Trade Center?
...and I've yet to read a measured response to my allegation of your naivete, nor of the truthiness of my consternation.
As an amateur film maker I think I'm (just a tad, maybe) attuned to which tricks of the trade work and which don't. I could be wrong, though.
Edit: P.S. to BillyBob: I was posting mainly as a film critic, not a(n) (anti)conspiracy theorist.
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