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Why the New World Order will not prevail

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posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 01:12 AM
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Why the New World Order will not prevail.
Some intellectual arguments showing the fallacy of their enterprise.


Here are some points which it seems the power elite haven't considered in their endeavor to have complete control of the world:


Point #1:

Their position is that of social parasites. Like a mosquito on an elephant, they suck the blood of the populace celebrating themselves for their cleverness. Once they've got the blood on tap, the only thing that will satisfy them is more. When more is all you need, any amount - no matter how large - will never be enough.

Eventually the mosquito becomes larger than the elephant, and kills the host. When the host dies, the mosquito dies.


Point #2:

Wealth is created by the industrious enterprise of humanity. When we are free to think, work, produce without the interference or taxation of parasitic government and elites, the things of the world that have value are in abundance. Their greedy eyes then see this wealth, and in their greed take from the very machinery which creates it. In the theft of wealth comes the destruction of wealth. They throw a wrench into the machine, because the product that the machine creates is part of the machine itself. It's as if the fruit of the vine is not enough... they want the plant and it's seed. Greed is a pathology of the mind, and its ability to destroy is why it is so dangerous.


Point #3:

If the elite ever were to attain their goal of a new world order, what then? Does a single one of them, each with a proven track record of taking all they can for themselves, believe that their tentative allies in this war against the masses will not turn against them? Once they believe their positions secure, there will almost surely be infighting over who will actually inherit what they created. Not a one of them will be able to trust each other once the system is in place. They will all spy each other with greedy eyes, and war endlessly against themselves to take what they have created. Eventually, their work will be forgotten, their structure will rust, their power will become dissolute, betrayal and deceit will tear apart everything they have coveted and the world will begin again.


(continued)



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 01:12 AM
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Point #4:

Their obsession with genetic “purity” or the superiority of certain characteristics is at work against them. Just like they discovered that excising a handful of perfect specimens and having them interbreed did not produce supermen, but rather sickly, intellectually-feeble rejects, whatever revision they have planned to replace it is doomed to fail as well. The problem is in the idea of superiority.

The god of life has created genetic diversity for a reason. If we were all the same, then if any of the countless billions of environmental and biological threats found a way to kill just 1 of us, then the whole species would be dead. Diversity is a way of ensuring survivors in the face of catastrophe.

Let them breed with each other, and they will be as sickly and frail as dalmations.


Point #5:

Their plans are doomed to failure for another reason they have not considered: Like the process of observing the electron (in which you can't see where it is without changing where it is) you can't create a plan to subjugate humanity without changing fundamentally what humanity is. Then you need another plan. Then it changes again. And you need another plan. The human mind can't possibly wrap itself around the chaos that ensues when you try to control an unpredictable system so complex. They will find that their process of tightening the grasp on us lubricates their fingers.


Point #6:

They are still subject to the patterns of human behavior. Unless the power elite are something other than human, it can be predicted that the following will happen if they do ever achieve their outlined goals:

Step 1: The goals are achieved.
Step 2: They get comfortable with the new state of affairs.
Step 3: They get bored. Just as it comes as a surprise to so many people who win the lottery, they will find that the process of getting what they want turns what they “want” into “what they once want-ed”. Now what? Where do you go from there? Complacency, inter-faction rivalry, and an erosion of their position will occur over time as they forget what it was all for, and lose the intestinal fortitude to hold onto it. Their religion where they hold themselves as gods will evolve as something unexpected takes its place.



Summary:

They are at war with nature. The god of nature made the rules, and they stand with arrogance in defiance of it, attempting to claim natures creations as their own. With their arrogance will come their downfall, as they are not gods, nor can anyone aspire to be without sowing the seeds of their own destruction.



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 01:34 AM
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A few more things I'd like to add:


At what point can the elite consider their understanding of the human system, biology, and behavior sufficient for them to achieve their dreams? No matter how knowledgeable we become, the point that we occupy on the road to omnipotence is an arbitrary one.

Think of it like this: if what there is to know is essentially infinite, then no matter what we know, we know NOTHING by comparison. By what luck would the elite find themselves far enough on the smart side of an infinite number line to ensure that they know enough to secure their position?

Or, to put it another way...

Imagine dissecting a frog. We use a tool that is smaller, and sharper than the frog to understand it: a scalpel. Now, what if the only tool you had to take the frog apart was another frog? It's only as sharp and small as the thing it is trying to take apart, it therefore cannot dissect itself.

In the same way, the elite are trying to understand humanity enough to control them, but they are using humanity to do it. We cannot dissect ourselves to the point of understanding. We will forever be mysteries to ourselves, because we use our own minds as the tool for understanding.

Their ambition is to exceed themselves, and utterly impossible.



posted on Nov, 1 2007 @ 08:10 AM
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Good and valid points. And I sure hope you're right.

The Elite are a bunch of inbred idiots imho. But that doesn't necessarily make them less dangerous.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 11:05 AM
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The NWO will not prevail because the NWO you speak of is a paranoid fantasy.

There will be civil change, there always has been and always will be.
To the Britons, Rome was the New World Order, to the Romans, Christianity was the New World Order and so on.

Something will come that will surely change or civilization for better or for worse but it will not be some fantastic reptilian/shadow government/Masonic/CIA/Bilderburger/CFR/Federal Reserve conspiracy. it will just be the winds of change that have always blown.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by RWPBR
it will just be the winds of change that have always blown.


Decisions that affect a huge amount of people or frequently made by a very small of group of people. This is not “just the winds of change”, it’s by design.

The CIA, the Bilderbergers Group, CFR and the Federal Reserve that you so casually dismissed above are essential for the rulers to remain in place.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 11:41 AM
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However the mosquito has not died without leaving offspring.

They are not taking the world for themselves but for their children.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 11:47 AM
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I hope that you are right.

But I don't think you are. As said by ConspiracyNut, I think this change is by design. But as I also said, the OP has a lot of valid points, and hopefully he is right, and they won't prevail.

Illuminati...a bunch of inbred swine...



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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It's simple really... they won't succeed because the whole of humanity will not let them. They may be winning now and may even continue to advance, but only to a point. Why? Because human nature - the very human nature that drives their greed - feeds all of us. And under no circumstances will the balance remain in their favor for too long. Nature, of which mankind belongs and is an intergral part of, seeks and thrives off of balance and equalibrium. When that equalibrium is disturbed, nature will react to restore the balance - always has, always will.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:07 PM
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View the situation from the point of world history and not from the viewpoint of the Xfiles generation and things may look a lot different.
The world looks different to the man in the valley then it does to the man on the mountain top.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:13 PM
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True. But the lightless Chamber of Doom also looks different to the man with a flashlight than to the man without one.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by RWPBR
View the situation from the point of world history and not from the viewpoint of the Xfiles generation and things may look a lot different.


Could you point out any point in history where the ruling class has voluntarily given away their power (to the people) and where they haven't tried to further consolidate their power?



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:19 PM
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We're in a whole new world here, Kozmo - nature is no longer as dominant in the human mind as it once was.

I think it might be likely that the NWO would probably set up some sort of imprenetrable barrier (most likely concrete, like a modern fortress - but if they have the tech in 51, maybe a few forcefields just to intimidate people), to keep the people they don't want out and the people they do want in.

While were busy fighting each other for survival, they'll be lording it over, manufacturing assault rifles with materials brought in through vast underground networks by robots (or slaves, perhaps), and probably developing new bio-weapon strains, with the rest of humanity as the test subjects.

There would be a 10 mile killzone between the perimeter and the world.

And how can we storm a place like that?

I can think of only one - From Space.

But space is likely to be their true objective; If they can get into space before everyone else, it means we're done for - i'm thinking of ion cannon arrays like out of C&C, except hundreds of them, most of them trained on aforesaid killzone but a few randomly seeking targets.

Even worse if they start making orbital construction yards, and take in materials from outside the earth's atmosphere.

Ooops, got a little carried away.




posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:27 PM
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And thank you for making my point



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:37 PM
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reply to post by ConspiracyNut23
 


No for that is the way of the world. It has always been like that. It is nothing new. Does the sun conspire with the the moon to see who rises first ?

You see change and, from the viewpoint of your cultural and generational experiences, try to put it into a framework you understand. Viewed in the light of human history however there is no big evil conspiracy, just the ever constant change.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 12:53 PM
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I hear what you're saying, but believe, IMO, that it's little far-fetched. Let's think about this logically... They can live under ground, but only for a limited amount of time. Let's pretend it's 5 years! Eventually they'll have to come out and if they contaminate the planet to exterminate the human race, they too will become exterminated by the waste left behind.

Oh, there is just waaaaaaaay too much to try and tackle in this thread. Let's just say that whatever disaster they bring about to depopulate, they are likely to succumb to themsleves. And besides... wouldn't that be kind of a stupid endgame? Money and power mean nothing when you have no one to hold it over, right?



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 01:00 PM
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I see what you mean about humanity being a part of nature, and as such there will always be an alpha male/female - there’s just nothing we can do about it. The ruling class will always oppress us. We’re doomed…

However, there is something we can do!

Some of these evils are blatantly obvious and should be addressed immediately. The CIA, the Bilderbergers Group, CFR and the Federal Reserve you’ve mentioned earlier are prime examples of evil at work. (I think we can safely ignore the Reptilians and Masons
)

If we follow the advice you gave earlier, that is, look at the situation in the light of history. We find that once in a while, a massive group of people stood up together and have overthrown tyrants. Don’t you think the time has come?

If we just ignore these evils, and refuse to speak out, or even worst, pretend it doesn’t exist, simply because it’s “nature”, then we are doomed. Humanity will never better itself.

We're better than that, I think.


[edit on 2/11/07 by ConspiracyNut23]



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 01:06 PM
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I am NOT saying dont fight it, lord knows I treasure freedom and human rights, I am just saying it is NOT a deep dark conspiracy and proclaiming it so just further muddies the very same waters you are trying to clear.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 01:18 PM
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Actually, there is a way this could happen. I suggest you check out Alex Jones new movies, Endgame. He makes a very decent case for depopulation. (He is no longer the nut who screams out SATANISTS!!! at passing elites. …
) Jones demonstrates that the elite, have and continue to support efforts in depopulation, including race specific diseases. (or attempting to)

Another issue he pursues is medical advancement. As medical costs escalates, there will eventually be a subclass of people who cannot afford medical treatment. At the other end of the scale there will be the super-rich, who essentially, will be able to live forever. The upper class will now become superior, not just financially as now, but physically as well.


Money and power mean nothing when you have no one to hold it over, right?


It’s easier to control say, 100 million people than an ever- growing mass of nearly 7 Billion.



posted on Nov, 2 2007 @ 01:28 PM
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The Federal Reserve would be very difficult to describe as anything other than a conspiracy. And this central banking scheme is in place all over the world.

To put it simply:

It is absurd to say that our country can issue $30,000,000 in bonds and not $30,000,000 in currency. Both are promises to pay; but one promise fattens the usurer, and the other helps the people.
– Thomas Edison



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