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Topic started on 22-10-2007 @ 12:44 AM by mad scientist

SAS raiders enter Iran to kill gunrunners


www.timesonline.co.uk
BRITISH special forces have crossed into Iran several times in recent months as part of a secret border war against the Iranian Revolutionary Guard’s Al-Quds special forces, defence sources have disclosed.

There have been at least half a dozen intense firefights between the SAS and arms smugglers, a mixture of Iranians and Shi’ite militiamen.
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reply posted on 22-10-2007 @ 01:37 AM by Britguy
reply to post by turbokid



Same thing I was thinking. The US Southern border is so porous and smuggling of people, drugs and arms is rife. With such a vast border between Iran and Iraq, it's going to be difficult for the US / UK, let alone the Iranians, to properly patrol and secure it.


reply posted on 22-10-2007 @ 08:31 AM by mad scientist
reply to post by xpert11



I believe the SASR has more than enough manpower with 3 squadrons of around 100 men each. They have one in Afghanistan and one in Iraq and the third back in Australia. As far as I know the government hasn't made any mention of their deployments lately, so this article is very interesting if it's true.



reply posted on 24-10-2007 @ 07:47 PM by turbokid
Originally posted by mad scientist

Illegal in whose eyes ? Yours ?


also a few other people, such as kofi annan who said the invasion was “not in conformity with the UN charter…from the charter point of view, it was illegal.”
"There is no precedent in international law for aiming to use force to change a regime, says Professor Lowe."
that sounds outside of the law to me. not to mention neocon war hero Richard Perle admitted it was illegal but said it was necessary because it was the "moral thing to do"
www.guardian.co.uk...
but nevermind all that right?


I am never failed to be surprised by the ignorance of people. FYI as you obviously don't know and because you're into finger pointing, it was actually the French and teh Germans who built Saddams chemical arsenal. But hey believe what you want if it makes you feel better.


France and Germany did help early on but what agit8dChop was pointing out is the hypocrisy of supplying weapons to iraq to be used against iran is ok but iran supplying weapons to insurgents in iraq is wrong.
oh and by the way the US DID supply alot of deadly chemicals and nerve agents to iraq.. not years before but DURING a war with iran.

october 83. Us funnels bombs and Howitzers through other countries to arm iraq, a violation of the Arms Export Control Act
november 83 secretary of state Shultz is given reports that iraq is using chemical weapons on iran
december 83 Rumsfeld visits saddam to assure him of US friendship and material support (remember the infamous handshake picture?)
july 84 CIA begins giving necessary intelligence to iraq to calibrate its mustard gas attacks on iran
march 86 US and Britain block all UN resolutions condemning iraqi use of chemical weapons on iranians. then becomes the only country refusing to sign a statement condemning the use of chemical weapons by iraq.
May 86 US department of commerce licenses 70 biological exports to iraq including 21 batches of anthrax.
may 86 department of commerce approves shipment of weapons grade botulin poison to iraq.
feb 88 saddam gases kurds in his "Anfal" campaign killing 100,000 kurds.. then.. get this two months later
april 88 dept. of commerce approves shipment of chemicals used to make mustard gas to iraq.
august 88 saddam gases more northern villages.
sept. 88 another shipment of weapons grade anthrax and botulinum is authorized
shall i continue?

www.iranchamber.com...

the funneling of weapons by the US is moral, the funneling of weapons by iran is terrorism.. thats what your saying? if that isnt the definition of hypocricy what is?
anything you can find that iran is doing i cant counter with instances where the US has done the same or worse
iran supporting terrorism? So is the US, the Mujahadeen-e-kalq or MEK has been on the US list of terrorist organisations since 1997 and has been responsible for numerous terrorist acts against iran.. but i guess thats ok?

www.cnn.com...
www.cfr.org...
the US supports these guys too..
blogs.abcnews.com...
once again hypocricy rears its head

iran threating a soverign country? (israel) US is threatening 3, 2 of which we already attacked.
iran trying to make nukes?.. How many thousand warheads do we have?

i wont even mention CIA training Taliban and Alqeda, or iran-contra or material support during the 6 day war, and again during the arab-israeli war, or selling weapons to saudi arabia (where is osama and the hijackers from again i forgot?)
if your going to condemn a country about their actions you should be sure your not doing them yourself.


reply posted on 24-10-2007 @ 07:56 PM by jerico65
Originally posted by turbokid

www.iranchamber.com...


You know, I might be wrong, but I think using this site as a source might be a bit on the biased side of things.


reply posted on 24-10-2007 @ 08:29 PM by mad scientist
Originally posted by turbokid

France and Germany did help early on but what agit8dChop was pointing out is the hypocrisy of supplying weapons to iraq to be used against iran is ok but iran supplying weapons to insurgents in iraq is wrong.
oh and by the way the US DID supply alot of deadly chemicals and nerve agents to iraq.. not years before but DURING a war with iran.

october 83. Us funnels bombs and Howitzers through other countries to arm iraq, a violation of the Arms Export Control Act
november 83 secretary of state Shultz is given reports that iraq is using chemical weapons on iran
december 83 Rumsfeld visits saddam to assure him of US friendship and material support (remember the infamous handshake picture?)
july 84 CIA begins giving necessary intelligence to iraq to calibrate its mustard gas attacks on iran
march 86 US and Britain block all UN resolutions condemning iraqi use of chemical weapons on iranians. then becomes the only country refusing to sign a statement condemning the use of chemical weapons by iraq.
May 86 US department of commerce licenses 70 biological exports to iraq including 21 batches of anthrax.
may 86 department of commerce approves shipment of weapons grade botulin poison to iraq.
feb 88 saddam gases kurds in his "Anfal" campaign killing 100,000 kurds.. then.. get this two months later
april 88 dept. of commerce approves shipment of chemicals used to make mustard gas to iraq.
august 88 saddam gases more northern villages.
sept. 88 another shipment of weapons grade anthrax and botulinum is authorized
shall i continue?

www.iranchamber.com...


Maybe you can't read you won post, but as I said the US never supplied any chemical weapons to Iraq. It was in actual fact the Germans and the French. The Germans actually built the worlds largest chemical weapons factory in the world in Samarra. You should educate yourslef a little more into the "facts", or at least make an attempt to back up what you say.
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