posted on Jan, 20 2004 @ 09:44 PM
A rose by any other name.....is still a rose.
Warning: This post and others in here may contain psychological nudity.
1. If you are offended by common sense, logic, reason, and analysis, leave now.
2. Faith and beliefs are not the same thing. Item 3 does not apply to people of Faith.
3. If your personal beliefs are more important than the ability to think clearly, leave now.
4. If you wish to participate in a discussion on how to turn a conspiracy tabloid into a
scientific endeavour, you have the right place.
So, to start this forum out right, I will re-state the rules of ATS in my own words:
no shirt, no shoes, no service
no seagulls allowed (all they do is squawk and shyt)
no dissin ya homies
Why start this topic? Well, a story is in order. Like most folks who occasional do some
research on the internet, I sometimes go to places to break the routine, for a laugh or
tension relief, and very occasionally, to conspiracy sites. (Psychological nudity warning)
Hate to break the news, but these are considered "kook" sites. Anyways, that is not
how I came to visit here. A friend sent me a link to an ATS forum in response to a
question on shield volcanoes. The link took me to the ATS forum on Yellowstone.
Found what I was after and became very impressed by some of the folks working
in that forum. Names seemed a little wierd, DragonRider, Astrocreep, etc....but there
was some decent stuff in there. I backed out to the main page, noted there was no
fee to sign up, and leaped in. Well, I needed a user name.....hmmmm... ok that
DragonRider fellow was probably a fan of the DragonWeyr series by Anne
McAfferty (spelling??) so to paraphrase his ID , NightWing, get it ?? The idea
was to get into a discussion with him on a similiar topic. To my chagrin, and after
some reading, gads, I had signed up on a tabloid (nicer name than what I used above)
and even worse, the person I was looking for had apparently got banned ?? In the search
to find out why, I began to notice the talents of some of the folks that post here. That
much talent in one place is potential energy looking for release. Just in the time since I
signed up, (I visit three or four times a week) ATS has launched a news site. Kudos !
Combine the talent with perseverance, and you are going somewhere.
So this forum is to add suggestions for those talented folks, and many of whom are also
on the staff here. The first of many suggestions would be a serious, scientific look at
conspiracy topics, most of which are truly contradictory, thus cannot be mutually true.
Quoting from my favorite, Dr S.W. Hawking:
"Real science can be falsified by observation. "
Meaning that science seeks to disprove, not to prove. Sometimes it is
mathamatically expedient and intuitive to prove something for all cases, but
not often. A single disproof of a concept starts the search again. So the
process is basically to describe the conjecture/hypothesis in a manner
that provides for observational testing to see if it fails. The path to truths
is found by eliminating the falsehoods.
If you are still following, its time to take a dive in the deep end. And
another warning. The scientific community considers "conspiracy theory" to
be an oxy-moron, or the coo-coo's nest. "Political-science" is even worse, the nesting ground for seagulls.
The first conspiracy site to understand this and attempt to join the
scientific community has the potential to create a new field of research,
maybe become the real GhostBusters of the 21st century. Thats what I want
to talk about here. No, I do not have all the answers, just suggestions and
a few guidelines. And a hint: Hint is first. Check the number of views for
the top news story " NASA is not altering Mars colors" and compare it to
ANY other forum on this board. You, ATS, are changing whether you know
it or not. True conspiracy sites will stick with the "they are hiding the truth
from us and altering scenes from mars". Instead, you became one of "them"
and left science fiction behind. You are being referenced, people, and by
"them", the evil cabals, and NASA, and gvts. and mad physicists. You are
getting this not because you made the FBI or CIA stalk list, but because
you suddenly became a Credible Source. Do you not see a real possibility
here? With the member talent, and content you now have, you can become
the ONLY credible source for Conspiracy Science 101, complete with
news flashes that nobody else could ever scoop you on.
Before making any further posts, a "test of the national broadcast system":
The tone you hear may or may not be the "banning" of nightwing.
Test of the Administration: "Deny Ignorance" SUKS. It conjures
up images of, you guessed it ! Dancing Bananas.
What do the innocient and the guilty always have in common?
They DENY Guilt. How do you tell the difference?
Now, stupidity is a trait. Ignorance is a condition. To cure a condition,
you acknowledge it, correct it, and prosper, just like you did with the
Mars Colors story, otherwise you continue dancing
with all the other bananas. End test.
If this had been a real emergency...........nightwing is now banned.