!!! NORAD TAPES obtained by Loose Change!!!!, page 5
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reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 03:57 PM by AcesInTheHole
Originally posted by jfj123
Nope not new to this. The guys from loose change are selling a product not trying to find the truth.


Only the lucky few get to have a career that they enjoy. Are you against capitalism too? These guys need money to live just like you and me, and if you've seen where they live/work, you'd realize that they aren't making a lot of money anyway.

Also,
again, do you honestly think that the guys from Loose Change bullied NORAD into releasing tapes that are damning in any way?


No.

Lets be clear about this. There is a conspiracy community and a truth community.

The Truth Community only cares about finding the truth no matter what.
The conspiracy community is what gets sucked into videos like Loose Change.


And then there's the ignorant community where people don't know how to take things with a grain of salt, or maybe do a little of their own research instead of believing everything they hear. There are many good, truthful points in the film. Why don't you try to debunk those, instead of nit-picking points that have already been fixed?

Finally,
The guys from Loose Change had to update their videos because they were wrong with their facts.


Better late than never.

But prior to the updates, they claimed they were right and had absolute proof then OOPS, they're wrong.


They made mistakes, they fixed them. It doesn't mean that they were insincere with their beliefs.

Normally, this would cause a problem with their credibility or at the very least, a lack of ability for gathering facts properly. This little problem would eliminate them as experts in any other field of study. So why not here?


I don't know, does everyone stop reading the newspaper when they make a mistake and put the reprint in the pages a week later? No, so I don't see why they would be ridiculed if their work was sincere, they put their whole lives into this and haven't got much in return other than grief. And they have never claimed to be "experts", so I'm not sure what you really mean here.


reply posted on 4-9-2007 @ 12:35 PM by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Where's AA11?:



Hint: Every one of those yellow spots is a plane without a transponder code showing.


Is this to suggest that all ATC's have to go on is a US map with everything on it? No regional or local airspace maps...? Somehow I have to believe that can't be true.


reply posted on 8-9-2007 @ 10:03 PM by LazyGuy
Once again I wanted to edit my post and discovered that I couldn't.

I'm guessing that the admin on ATS has engaged some feature that sets a time limit for editing posts.

Please forgive the multiple posts. This should be the last time I need to edit this post. I've put all the files into a folder on RS and once I've posted the link I can add files to it without having to edit the post again.

It took me several hours to get each file of the audio from the site posted earlier.

I decided to give people an option. I've uploaded some of the files into my RapidShare account. I've got both of the files that were posted earlier. When I get a hold of the rest I'll post them too if there seems to be people that are using the files.

DRM1_DAT2_Channel_2_MCC_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_3_MCC_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_3_MCC_TK.z01
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_4_ID_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_10_TT_TK.wav.zip
DRM3_DAT2_Channel_24_Emerg-AICC.wav_1.zip

ALL OF THE FILES ARE BEING UPLOADED

They are in a Rapidshare folder. Clink the following link to access all of the files.

NORAD Tapes on Rapidshare

THEY WILL APPEAR AS SOON AS THEY ARE UPLOADED

You'll have to use WinZip 11 to extract the newest files. I couldn't use anything else to get high enough compression. Please notice that DRM1_DAT2_Channel_3_MCC_TK is the first of what will probably be several multi part files. WinZip 11 has a new feature that creates multiple file archive sets. Rapidshare has a maximum allowed filesize of 100MB. Some of the files won't compress below 100MB.

All of the files start out at the same size. They're almost 200 MB. I still haven't taken the time to listen to all of the files, but I'm guessing that the ones that don't compress as well are the ones that have more actual words in them. On the files I've listened to there were some pretty long gaps of scilence.

WinZip 11

Each file is a little different. I've had more trouble getting enough compression. I'm looking into other options. Will post what I can on Rapidshare. I'm listing all the files in order to make it clear which files are there and which ones are not.

I'm using Rapishare since It's a service I already have been using. I know the service it fast and reliable. These files will be there for as long as I have my Rapidshare account. Which I hope will be a long time.
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