reply to post by SimiusDei
Absolutely not. For me it is spiritual. I do want to save it for ourselves in that I want my son to be able to see the beautiful things I have. But it
is not personal. I feel it is an obligation and a duty.
That we are beholden to bigger things.
That we shouldn't be pooping in our own mess kit if you know what I mean.
I love the attitude that humans are not capable of destruction on a mass scale.
Condiering that something invisible to the eye such as a virus can wipe out half of any species population in months, it is not all that inconcievable
of a thought.
As I have stated before, this earth isn't that large. It is less then 8k miles around. Adn there are 6 BILLION of us.
Some may argue that in iself is not a large enough number to do damage. But it is the extraordinary amount of resources we use to survive.
Just look at how many resources are used just for the basic conveinances. It is STAGGERING.
Go to your cupboard and get out a jar of peanut butter. In itself, it doesn't look like much. But consider what it took for you to have it:
Fields of peanuts had to be planted.Land had to be plowed over to create that field. Machines are used to harvest them. A factory had to be built to
create those machines. Then they had to be shipped to the processing plant. Roads had to be paved for trucks to haul the peanuts. Then a factory had
to be built to turn the peanuts into butter. A factory had to be created to make the asphalt, a factory had to be built to create the paving machines,
and so on. A factory had to be built to make the plastic jar it is in . A factory had to be built to make the label. The pb was put in the jar to be
shipped to the stores. More trucks and oil miles. Then there is the box that had to be created in another factory to haul it in. Most likely it was
used once and thrown away. Then you had to drive to the store, purchase it. A factory had to be built to make the little plastic bag you put it in.
More gas and oil miles to drive it home. How about all the energy it took to run these factories? Water and power plants had to be built to sustain
them. A factory was built and used resources so you can have your car.Then many people eat it and not recycle the container. All that for a cheap
sandwhich. Then the container has to be hauled away, and landfilled. More resources.
Consider this same process for the bread and jelly.
Look around your home and look at the infinite number of items and the mass amount of resources it took for every single one.
These are the processes that we know about. There is an infinite number of processes going on that we are not aware of. The paper work for the
farmers. The paperwork for the USDA. The labs running quality control to make sure it is safe. The pesticides created to keep bugs from eating the
peanuts. The list goes on.
This whole thought that we are selfish for thinking we can do that much damage is selfish for thinking we can't. The blaise attitude was the attitude
of previous generations that the earth is infinite.
Even if we don't completely obliterate everything, it will be changed, and changed permanently.
And most likely what will be left behind will not be as pleasant.
And I like the way things are.
We may not be able to destroy every little thing in the ocean but I want to see dolphins and whales and tuna. Not just jelly fish.
I want to be able to see bears and moose in Yellowstone. Not just an overbundance of squirrels.
I want my son to be able to see the breathtaking red rock of Sedona. Not a smog haze and huge homes.
We may not be able to destroy everything but we can certainly destroy what is important.
Think we can't cause mass problems?
We have all heard about the American buffalo being hunted till extinction.
We hear less how many Native American tribes nearly starved to death from having their main staple removed.
What almost everyone doesn't know that it caused bad erosion problems afterwards. Because when the buffalo would run across the prairie, their cloven
hooves would create divets in the impermeable prairie grass allowing the water to percolate through.
When the buffalo were gone they were not their to do natures erosion control and the water started sheeting off and forming floods.
There were only a few thousand buffalo hunters. But those few thousand managed to take an animal that weighed a ton and hunt it to extinction in 50
years. There was an estimated 30-120 million buffalo. Buffalo Bill Cody single handedly killed 4k in 2 years.
so if a few hunters can make a one ton animal disappear in 50 years. Imagine what 6 billion people can do to a planet.
And all that prairie? That would take weeks to travel across? The same prairie mention by Laura Wilder? Only 1% of that prairie remains today. It was
all developed for agriculture.
Is the buffalo gone? No. But only a few thousand live in natural parks. And that was only because someone interfered and saved a few before total
extinction. This all happened 120 years ago. And mother nature hasn't managed to put 30 million buffalo and an entire prairie back.