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Topic started on 15-1-2004 @ 08:08 PM by Russian
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As some people know Russian is currently building an aircraft that wil take them to Mars 2018.
Why 2018?
Because Mars will be very close to earth at that time.
And this will cost the Russians $20 billion.
Russian Mars mission link
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:10 PM by Taxman
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Yep, the I think there should be another space race if Russia's econmy in a few years can seriously handle it. Or better yet, a US/EU/Russia Mission
to Mars, a group effort and would be possible even sooner.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:12 PM by Russian
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Originally posted by Taxman
Yep, the I think there should be another space race if Russia's econmy in a few years can seriously handle it. Or better yet, a US/EU/Russia Mission
to Mars, a group effort and would be possible even sooner. 
Races are good for technology.
And if Russia and US can work together then as most people know.
Russia and US has some of the worlds smartest scientists.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:12 PM by Amuk
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I am glad to see this.
With both Russia and China ready tio advance the space race maybe the US will do something besides stall, we should have been there years ago
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:14 PM by Amuk
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Races are good for technology.

Thats what got us to the Moon
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:17 PM by Taxman
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"Ingenium Res Adversae Nudare Solent, Celare Secundae" - Horace
(Adversary reveals genius, prosperity conceals it)
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:19 PM by Russian
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There is a chance Russia will be on Mars before US.
It is because Russia is consuntrating on Mars and US on a Moon base.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:21 PM by Russian
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Yep!
Even look at all the tech advancement in bother World Wars.
And especially in Cold War.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:24 PM by Taxman
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The US wants a moon base (zappa, ha ha I'm funny) for reasons of...
1) Future space exploration
2) Unlimited electical power
3) More natural reasourses
4) The proverbial deathstar ray gun
After that, we goto mars, then Alpha Centuri.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:31 PM by WeBDeviL
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Yeah, the U.S. Moon base plan is great. From there we will be able to go above and beyond. NASA's top director, (forgot his name), recently said that
NASA would be unveiling a new type of space ship before we have the moon base mission.
- From the moon, less gravity, easier take off
- Not as much fuel waste to exit Earth's atmosphere
- New space type, some sort of space 'plane' will be able to travel faster.
U.S. agenda for space sounds good to me right now. Russia looks good, too. Looks like humanity is finally stepping up to the task.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:37 PM by Russian
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Originally posted by Taxman
The US wants a moon base (zappa, ha ha I'm funny) for reasons of...
1) Future space exploration
2) Unlimited electical power
3) More natural reasourses
4) The proverbial deathstar ray gun
After that, we goto mars, then Alpha Centuri. 
Yes US will build a base on moon first.
And from there they will be able to launch to mars.
But dont forget.
First gowers pay the most.
And people after get the info for free.
In other words what I am saying is when US builds a base it will be cheaper for others to build one too.
And about Russia going to Mars, US can go to they just dont want to take the blame if something goes wrong.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:38 PM by Russian
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Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Yeah, the U.S. Moon base plan is great. From there we will be able to go above and beyond. NASA's top director, (forgot his name), recently said that
NASA would be unveiling a new type of space ship before we have the moon base mission.
- From the moon, less gravity, easier take off
- Not as much fuel waste to exit Earth's atmosphere
- New space type, some sort of space 'plane' will be able to travel faster.
U.S. agenda for space sounds good to me right now. Russia looks good, too. Looks like humanity is finally stepping up to the task.
-wD 
I agree with you 100%.
But read the post below.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:40 PM by Taxman
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Yes the US wants to go, we, after moving the budget go around, could go now. There are other circumstances however that the US must attend to before
we can. Russia hasnt realized, the West is in a second cold war or if you wish, a third world war, against terrorists.
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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 08:45 PM by Russian
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Here is some very intresting info.
Russia want to go to Mars with US and EU by 2014.
But NASA doesn't want to.
Also it looks like Russia will go to Mars on May, 8 2018.
They will start a 500 day training course for the mars mission in 2005.
"The experiment to be carried out at the institute will involve six people spending 500 days in an enclosed space inside the ground module of a
space station where certain conditions of a Mars flight will be simulated," he said.
The participants, who will be given three tonnes of water and five tonnes of food, "will undergo special training on how to act in hazardous
situations," the official said.
Water and oxygen for the "flight" will be generated by means of the participants' own life processes.
"If a crewmember falls ill, the other members will have to provide aid on their own," Malashenkov said.
For the rest of the interesting article view this website.
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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 03:17 PM by Russian
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Also I heard US wants to have a manned mission to Mars by 2033.
I will try find this info so it wouldnt sound like I am putting US down.
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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 03:27 PM by Russian
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Russia might be on Mars earlier.
"Russia can overtake USA," an anchorwoman on state television said Thursday, echoing comments the previous day by a top Russian space official
who said that Moscow is capable of placing a man on Mars within 10 years at one tenth of the cost of reported US plans.
"Technically, the first flight to Mars could be made in 2014. It would cost around 15 billion dollars (11.7 billion euros) to do it, compared with
the American estimate for their project of 150 billion dollars," said Leonid Gorshkov, chief designer with Energia, the Russian space constructor.
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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 04:33 PM by ultra_phoenix
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Originally posted by Russian
And this will cost the Russians $20 billion.

Sure.... Something is telling me it's the Americans and not the Russians who'll pay the bill.
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Also, it would be funny if the Reds weren't the first ones to go on the Red planet.
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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 04:44 PM by Amuk
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I am just glad to see we are ALL collectively getting off our azzes and going. The more countries involved the better, hopefully we will see a race
between the US, Russia, the EU, China and maybe Japan. Nothing like compatition to spur things on, like Russian said almost all of our tech we have
today is because of WW 1-2, the cold war and the first space race.
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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 08:24 PM by Laxpla
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Man, i just want someone to build a base so i can visit it for 1 mill, ill save me money up my whole life and BAM iam on the moon
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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 08:47 PM by littlegreenmen
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I always thought of the first Mars mission to be a world project...I mean just think if the US Russia and China would all work togeather we would get
to Mars a lot faster
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