Alignment Of Ancient Wonders Around The World: Intelligent Design?

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posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 08:41 AM
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Guys, the reason that the monuments "seem" to line up has to do with the fact that humans evolved in a tropical climate. So we tended to settle around the equator.



Dont forget the sphynx faces the constelation leo as it was 12500 years ago... soryy if that has already been noted...


It's a point in the sky, far far away. You could argue that ANY structure on the face of the Earth faced the constellation leo as it was 12400 years ago. Including the Panama Canal.


doesn't matter. Akngor Wat lined up with draco, giza with orion, and the sphinx with leo, all in the same time period. the point is, it's not as likely to be a coincidense, as they are at the same time..

Sorry. That's a huge coincidence and a huge leap of logic. That's like saying that five windows in two distant buildings align with where a Whataburger is today.


How do you even know the egyptians ago had the same constellations?

Aha! Someone thought to ask the question! Yes, the stars were in the same place, but no they DIDN'T have the same constellations! Didn't even use the same set of stars... Orion is actually two different constellations to the Egyptians.




posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 09:01 AM
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i'm wondering,

in dating these sites to 10,500BCE or 12,000BCE,
the 'precessional' rate has been a constant?

*factor in continental drift, plate tectonics (eg. N America drifts 1-3 cm/yr away from europe)
*so too SE Asia, et al...
*each year scores of tons of cosmic 'dust' settles to earth...(without altering? ley lines, magnetic fields?)
->(cesium, atomic clocks reveal that the earthtime needs to ADD a'second' to clocks almost every year)
*the point being...there are many variables not addressed, for this 'sacred Geometry' to be true/accurate
~*~

perhaps, these all were, at one time, matched up in some significant relationship...
but thats' the Past.....todays' mass mind is collectively sure that the 'old cycle' is ending, be it Age of Aquarius or Maya 2012....so those 'old world' alignments are passee
--> interesting, but not relevent anymore...
~?~

"The brain is reflecting what we are feeling, even if that's not what really happened"

stay the course
the journey is its own reward



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by dunkleskates
doesn't matter. Akngor Wat lined up with draco, giza with orion, and the sphinx with leo, all in the same time period. the point is, it's not as likely to be a coincidense, as they are at the same time..


What about all of those wonders that don't line up with the stars? A worldwide advanced civilization fascinated with the stars only aligned a few of their wonders with the stars?



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd


Dont forget the sphynx faces the constelation leo as it was 12500 years ago... soryy if that has already been noted...


It's a point in the sky, far far away. You could argue that ANY structure on the face of the Earth faced the constellation leo as it was 12400 years ago. Including the Panama Canal.


I believe that the significance attached to the Sphinx's connection with that era was also the fact that the Orion would have been oriented to match up precisely with the three pyramids at Giza in the same era.

The constellation Leo would have risen at an angle that would have corresponded visually with the Sphinx , viewed from the side (outside the enclosing rock wall).

Now admittedly, there are other possibilities for these observations, as you have stated, Byrd. But when looking at Giza in particular, perhaps this information should be added to the other knowledge we have of ancient Egypt. If nothing else, the date mentioned may help in clearing up any curiosity surrounding the construction of the megalithic structures on the Giza plateau.

Perhaps the conventional view is correct, but until we have every shred of evidence that still exists under the desert sands, we cannot say for certain which is the truth, if we even can then. Much of archaeology and ancient historical research is speculative, based around observations of the tattered remnants of an era that we cannot hope to learn everything about.

It simply happens that whoever makes the most convincing argument first is the one who is deemed to be correct by their peers.

For all we know, the actual answer is still out there waiting to be found. So let's keep searching and keep debating the observations we each have made.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 01:22 PM
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We're talking about ancient sites and relative position to the stars, don't forget the limestone carving of a "horse" on the hillside in Britian (name alludes me)... which, coicidently, alines with Taurus 12500 years.

People are saying that these structures aligning with stars mean nothing. Really? Can you name one modern series of structures mapped out in accordance to a key constellation?

Britian, Egypt, Siam... three distinct and differing cultures, seperated by thousands of miles, all at the same period in time, arranging a monument to the stars, shaped as the stars.

Yeah, I can see why this is nonsense.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 01:35 PM
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Ofcourse I can find a number of totally unconnected structures that align with a random constellation. Too easy even, just get a map and overlay a constellation. See which buildings match the constellation and you're done. There are a lot of buildings on the Gizah plateau that are not in the reflection of the Orion constellation, so you don't have to worry about the buildings that are in not in your constellation.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 02:22 PM
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interesting, was wondering when someone would post on this ancient alignments around planet, does seem to be not an acident, what purpose they were for is a lost mystery, possible uses are for some sort of ionic magnetic enegry storage devices.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 03:01 PM
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I believe that these sites, other than maybe the pyramid, were built at the site of even older objects. The temples were placed there to mark the spots.

Rather than generate energy I think the plan was to either strengthen the magnetic field, or to change the frequency of the schumman resonance.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by amantine
Ofcourse I can find a number of totally unconnected structures that align with a random constellation.


Your argument would have a good basis if it weren't for the fact that there are very many ancient sites all over the world that were built around astronomical data. With some of these sites there is absolutely no doubt that the stars and planets played a major part in their construction.

www.goddessmound.com...

The fact that these sites exist points to a high likelihood that the construction of the pyramids and their alignment, was no mere coincidence.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd

Sorry. That's a huge coincidence and a huge leap of logic. That's like saying that five windows in two distant buildings align with where a Whataburger is today.


if there were as many ancient structures then as there are buildings today.



How do you even know the egyptians ago had the same constellations?

Aha! Someone thought to ask the question! Yes, the stars were in the same place, but no they DIDN'T have the same constellations! Didn't even use the same set of stars... Orion is actually two different constellations to the Egyptians.

then explain how the sphinx, with the body of a feline lines up with leo, the lion constellation. and also how the pyramids at giza are positioned in accordance to the three stars in orions belt.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 08:21 PM
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[q]Aha! Someone thought to ask the question! Yes, the stars were in the same place, but no they DIDN'T have the same constellations![/q]
Were the stars really in the same place? haven't they moved a bit in the last 5000 years. I thought that was part of the debate sorrounding the dating of the Pyrimids, since they DON"T match Orion in 3000 bc.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 09:13 PM
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The Indus Valley is also antipodal to Easter Island. It is an interesting coincidence concerning these two sites, opposite each other on Earth, that of the few ancient written languages of the world that remain undeciphered, two are Indus Valley Script and Rongorongo, the written language of ancient Easter Island. The world's first known written languages, Egyptian Hieroglyphics and Sumerian Cuneiform, were also developed along this line of ancient sites. The Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Brahman and Buddhist religions, as well as ancient Egyptian and Peruvian religions, were also developed along this line.



The line represents more than just the position of the sites. It draws across where civilization, and religion began around the globe. This is where man first built cities, developed writting, and began to grow in knowledge.



posted on Jan, 16 2004 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by dunkleskates
then explain how the sphinx, with the body of a feline lines up with leo, the lion constellation.

That's just it... it doesn't. Go see for yourself. Stand outside and see if Leo doesn't align perfectly with your location.

Here's a good page on the astronomy of Ancient Egypt, including how they divided the day (36 hours) and so forth:
www.egyptologyonline.com...

Some really detailed drawings from Senemut's tomb of the constellations and deities:
www.institutoestudiosantiguoegipto.com...

They refer to the details of the photo here:
www.nationalgeographic.com...

...and more, translating the hieroglyphs:
abey.home.mindspring.com...



and also how the pyramids at giza are positioned in accordance to the three stars in orions belt.


Ah, but they aren't.

Take a gander at this quote



Readers of The Orion Mystery are shown an aerial photograph of Giza paired with a picture of Orion's Belt. There is something wrong with these images, however. The picture of the pyramids is oriented with north at the bottom of the page. Orion's Belt, on the other hand, has north at the top. To make the pyramids match the sky, you have to turn Egypt upside down. In fact, all of the book's maps of Egypt are published upside down, with south at the top.

You can see it plainly for yourself at:

www.hallofmaat.com...

SOMEwhere (I can't find it) is a photo map of Giza with all the pyramids (and there are bunches) marked on it. When you see it, it's obvious that they really don't match up at all.



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 02:35 AM
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egyptians had north and south mixed up.i can;' remember where, but some egyptologist mentioned that once



posted on Jan, 18 2004 @ 11:44 AM
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Maybe they didnt have North and South moxed up, what if we had a pole reversal ie pole shift.



posted on Jan, 18 2004 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by blobby
Maybe they didnt have North and South moxed up, what if we had a pole reversal ie pole shift.


the planet doesn't physically flip. just the magnetic poles.



posted on Jan, 18 2004 @ 01:42 PM
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It is believed that in time the physical poles will shift too with the magnetic poles being a precursor.

That is part of the alignment of the ancient sites, referencing a different reality in history.

Also a parallel to the natural grid and installed grid around the earth.



posted on Jan, 18 2004 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by THENEO
It is believed that in time the physical poles will shift too with the magnetic poles being a precursor.

That is part of the alignment of the ancient sites, referencing a different reality in history.

Also a parallel to the natural grid and installed grid around the earth.


welcome back!
a shift perhaps, but only a few degrees, ...to 'correct' the tilt. not a full 180 degree reversal, i believe.



posted on Jan, 21 2004 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by dunkleskates
egyptians had north and south mixed up.i can;' remember where, but some egyptologist mentioned that once


No. They didn't.

You see, they didn't rely on magnetism so if the poles shifted (which they didn't), it wouldn't have mattered. Early civilizations navigated by the stars.

The North star didn't change, and they knew how to align the pyramids and other structures perfectly so that they faced East. This was an important religious and cultural action, and the archetects were actually very precise in their "cardinal alignment" (that's what it's called.)



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 11:25 AM
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OMG GUYS

if you look on a map, the state capitals of new jersey, delaware, maryland, north carolina, and south carolina all line up perfectly! Its obviously a ruse for the NSA to direct psyclon energy fields into the HAARP facility to repel the grey invasion of your underpants!



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