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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 06:47 PM by Flyingdog5000
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
I'd like to use this thread as a challenge to Arabasque or anyone who refuses to believe the plane flew on the north side of the citgo station despite the rock solid testimony we present.

Can anyone provide a valid reason to dismiss the independently corroborated claim that the plane flew on the north side of Columbia Pike and the Citgo station?



You mean like the overwhelming abundance of evidence that contradicts this little fairytale? Yes! The damage done to the Pentagon itself is consistent with an aircraft like a 757 hitting it after flying into the building from the south of the Citgo station. Basically, if you look at the mapped damage to the Pentagon, you will see that the internal damage is in direct line with a flightpath to the south of the CITGO and also in line with the damage light poles, etc. In fact, numerous eyewitness accounts also corroborate this. I was able to find eyewitness accounts that also said that it was a small corporate jet, while the larger portion identified it as either a 737, 757, A-320 or just as a corporate jet. (Strangely enough, nobody seems to be an eyewitness to a missile attack, but thats another CT so we'll let sleeping dogs lay.) As a law enforcement officer I'm well aware that eyewitness testimony is often flat wrong, even if it comes from other cops. You can deny it, but its true and has been verified in case after case. Any decent cop will tell you that eyewitness testimony is nice and reads well in the papers, but physical evidence is what makes the case. Look at all the cases of people wrongly imprisoned based on "eyewitness testimony" that have been released after review of the physical evidence such as DNA. The physical evidence in this case is overwhelming in support of the 757 flying into the building at an oblique angle after passing to the south of the CITGO station. The only way to contravene this evidence is to ignore it.

F-Dog


reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 07:49 PM by Craig Ranke CIT
That was a standard, generalized, uninformed reply from someone who clearly refuses to critically analyze the facts.

The physical evidence is extremely dubious/anomalous/questionable which is why we embarked on this investigation to begin with.

Lack of plane debris, anomalous hole, foundation undamaged, no damage where the vertical stabilizer would have hit, the list goes on and on.

And we KNOW that eyewitness testimony can be unreliable. We even say that in the movie but when specific claims are INDEPENDENTLY CORROBORATED that seriously changes very quickly.

You like everyone else who randomly attacks eyewitness testimony in general to dismiss the information in The PentaCon ALWAYS conveniently ignore that cold hard fact.

Think about it.......we read an email exchange from back in 2003 where Lagasse said he was on the "starboard" side of the plane which destroys the official story. People blew it off thinking he might have confused starboard and port and because it was just one account and it was simply an email.

We talk to the manager of the citgo station in person in 2006 and she tells us about her employee Robert Turcios who saw the plane. SHE told us that Robert saw the plane on the north side and that this has always been his story. We instantly thought about Lagasse's email to Dick Eastman and red flags went off like crazy.

But it was merely an old ambiguous email and a 2nd hand account so it didn't mean much but if they were true it was CORROBORATION and it meant a lot.

So we talk to Robert Turcios and he CONFIRMED that he saw it on the north side.

Now it becomes evidence.

Once I got Turcios' and Lagasse's accounts on video and they both confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that they really for sure both independently saw it on the north side and that Lagasse really did mean he was on the starboard side of the plane when he said it back in 2003.

Now it becomes strong evidence.

It's clear these people are not hazy on this simple fact.

Plus don't forget.......

LAGASSE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE PLANE THROUGH THE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE!

That means he would have had to fabricate his entire account.

Now the fact that Brooks ALSO independently and definitively saw the plane on the north side makes it proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

Now it becomes extremely strong evidence.

But it doesn't stop there!

Edward Paik ALSO corroborates them since he has the plane crossing over to the north side of Columbia Pike on an angle headed straight for the north of the citgo.

That makes it undeniable proof.

And neither you nor Arabesque nor anyone else can provide a single account that directly contradicts them.

NOT ONE!

Go ahead. Post one. Prove me wrong.




[edit on 7-6-2007 by Craig Ranke CIT]
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