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Topic started on 2-6-2007 @ 06:11 PM by bsregistration
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In this clip you can see previously recorded terror drill footage being passed off as some kind of "rescue" after the 2nd "plane crash". The
streets are totally empty and the "victim" doesn't have a scratch on him. He's in shorts and a T-Shirt and you can see an old car in the
background.
The entire 9/11 event was staged and scripted for the cameras. It really was a media hoax.
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reply posted on 2-6-2007 @ 08:13 PM by bsregistration
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Fake Live ABC video here:
The military feed that all the networks switched to was credited as ABC. Check the archives yourself.
www.livevideo.com...
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reply posted on 2-6-2007 @ 10:02 PM by Ahabstar
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Originally posted by bsregistration
In this clip you can see previously recorded terror drill footage being passed off as some kind of "rescue" after the 2nd "plane crash". The
streets are totally empty and the "victim" doesn't have a scratch on him. He's in shorts and a T-Shirt and you can see an old car in the
background.
The entire 9/11 event was staged and scripted for the cameras. It really was a media hoax.
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The guy that had fallen down was also a few blocks away from WTC. The street was clearly blocked by emergency units so that explains lack of traffic
and there seemed to be a bunch of people inside the lobby of the building and the guy in shorts was helped up and escorted to the lobby doors. My
guess there was a mad rush to seek shelter indoors as the second plane was inbound. And the guy fell and was left behind. Looks like he got a skinned
knee too. As for no plane, it was post impact and the cameraman didn't get the shot. No audio either so maybe a cop was trying to push and tell him
into the safety of the building lobby so he missed the impact shot.
The cut, clip, commentary does little to explain why the second half takes place much later 20, 30 40 minutes later I might add. But since you are the
original poster of this clip on youtube, is there more footage that you can show that answers the time gap?
As an editorial comment the jump clip loop of a few seconds doesn't look or feel very good when documenting a point. Some find it annoying and might
dismiss your arguement completely because of it as basically becomes 30-40 seconds stretched out to several minutes with nothing really shown.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 05:03 AM by Classified Info
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The entire 9/11 event was staged and scripted for the cameras. It really was a media hoax.
Yeah right. And all of the people that actually saw the airliners crash in to the towers were given some really good acid by Dick Cheney himself and
they were tripping their balls off.
Thus explains the mass hallucinations.
It doesn't explain how everybody had the same hallucination though.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 07:53 AM by shrunkensimon
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What people. You know you have absolutely no evidence of people "seeing" the planes hit the towers.
What you do have is alot of confused people who have been the victims of the power of suggestion.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 09:07 AM by PartChimp
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Originally posted by shrunkensimon
What people. You know you have absolutely no evidence of people "seeing" the planes hit the towers.
What you do have is alot of confused people who have been the victims of the power of suggestion.
Are you being serious? I really, really hope not. How do you explain the wreckage, the missing passengers, the video of the planes striking the
buildings... This seems to me to be the only forum where you can throw out some inane theory and it often goes without questioning. What proof do you
have that 9/11 was faked? I'll be waiting.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 09:20 AM by piacenza
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Are you being serious? I really, really hope not. How do you explain the wreckage, the missing passengers, the video of the planes striking the
buildings... This seems to me to be the only forum where you can throw out some inane theory and it often goes without questioning. What proof do you
have that 9/11 was faked? I'll be waiting.
Can you point me out to some eyewitnesses recorded that day that saw a plane hit the towers?
Can you show me a Video in high resolution that does not present anomalies?
What proof do you have a plane hit the building? I think that you are actually throwing out an insane theory because yours should be easier to prove
but its not.
Why?
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 09:26 AM by djdave2010
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Your video is proof of...nothing. The poster above me gave a great explanation for your "evidence".
9/11 cultists will use literally ANYTHING as evidence and/or proof. It's sad, and a reflection of the power of the internet, and if anyone is
experiencing "mass hallucinations" it's the people putting out these laughable videos..
Then, when anyone questions it, 9/11 cultists basically ask for more than they're presenting as proof to disprove them!
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 09:26 AM by shrunkensimon
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Originally posted by PartChimp
Are you being serious? I really, really hope not. How do you explain the wreckage, the missing passengers, the video of the planes striking the
buildings... This seems to me to be the only forum where you can throw out some inane theory and it often goes without questioning. What proof do you
have that 9/11 was faked? I'll be waiting.
Yes, i am being serious.
What wreckage? All that was recovered was an engine that doesn't even belong to the correct aircraft, some fuselage, a wheel... oh, and the passport
of one of the hijackers
Missing passengers.. have you looked at who was on the flightlist, besides the hijackers? There were some very important people on those planes.. some
were probably murdered, some probably given money and a new identity in another country... like Israel.
Video showing planes striking the towers... the whole point of the argument put forward by Bsregistration is that the videos are fake/compiled
footage.
What proof do you have that Osama was really behind 9/11? What proof do you have that the hijackers could even fly boeing planes?
Sit down, you've just been owned.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 09:34 AM by djdave2010
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He's been "owned"? Where's your proof of ANYTHING? Again, 9/11 cultists offer crap as evidence, then "own" anyone who refutes their claims by
asking for evidence/proof that they themselves don't have...
I don't put anything past our government, but I have yet to see one video, one document, or anything that "proves" what 9/11 cultists alledge. All
I see is interpretations with incredible bias.
Arguing on the internet is like nailing jello to a tree...
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 12:02 PM by PartChimp
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Shrunkensimon is just another bomb-thrower, Dj. He/she is pointing to no specific point of reference, just throwing out ambiguous "what-if's" and
"this is what i've been spoon-fed by other out-spoken 9/11 cultists" faux-facts. This is what he/she believes, therefore every other theory,
especially those that embattle his/her own are negated. This is a severe form of ego-mania; one which, if you ask any psychoanalyst, is prevalent in
the self-made gurus of the 9/11cult.
As I have said to previous posters who can't seem to see the forest for the trees, simon; you are not on the cusp of breaking free the levees of some
nefarious conspiracy. You are not a member of some elite category of free-thinkers that have developed an air-tight case for the implication of the
dastardly U.S. government in the worst act of terrorism in modern history. What you have is circumstantial (at best) evidence. What you have is a
blind-hatred complex toward the current administration that has broken your ability to see things from both sides of the fence. What you have is
really, sadly, nothing.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 12:16 PM by shrunkensimon
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Partchimp, sorry mate, but your analysis is nothing more than airheaded thinking. Stop trying to be a smartass.
I have more against Israel than i do against the Bush administration.
You claim im throwing out hotair, yet your writing is EXACTLY THE SAME. You provided no answers to the questions i posed, such as;
-Actual evidence of a plane crashing into the towers. We have an engine that doesn't belong to the correct plane, a wheel, a piece of fuselage.. all
pathetic evidence at best.
Go on, provide me some solid evidence that a plane/s crashed into the WTC. You know aswell as i do you CAN NOT do this. Your evidence for a plane
crashing is no better than mine for a plane not crashing. However, i have the upper hand, because i actually have a proper explanation for my theory,
whereas the official story makes absolutely no sense.
Get off your high horse, stop trying to analyize my writings, and start posting a decent rebutal to the said claims.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 01:14 PM by ebayitup
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why are you rude to people? this is the 3rd thread i've seen you in just insulting people. how are your tactics differant from Dubbya.
"alright, if they disagree with us, we insult them, discredit them, and say that they're the terrorists."
how are you differant from disinfo reps. i say you are disinfo. my evidence: your words.
disprove that
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 01:22 PM by tombangelta
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This is pure insanity.
Your forgetting 911 did happen outside the constraints of the Internet you know, in that big open space called outside.
people were there they saw it with there own eyes.
You should try it some time.
Think for a minute about what you are saying
A) Thousands of people who where there in NY didn't see any planes hit the
towers.
but never complained or thought anything was wrong when later that night they watched the attacks on CNN with added planes.
B) All the footage from 911 has been altered to include planes , even that taken by the general public ??? Dont you think by now somebody would have
shown video's with no planes just explosions?
or my favorite
C) The planes were holograms  the most far fetched BS ever to be conceived.
Hell I'm open minded i even think that the human race originated from aliens and I'm a million miles away from a debunker , but come on man.
I asked the same question when this topic was brought up before and i didn't get an answer. How old are you dude ? because i don't think that
anybody over the age of say 14-15 could believe this nonsense.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 03:41 PM by shrunkensimon
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Originally posted by ebayitup
why are you rude to people? this is the 3rd thread i've seen you in just insulting people. how are your tactics differant from Dubbya.
how are you differant from disinfo reps. i say you are disinfo. my evidence: your words.
I am a 20yr old student from the UK.. i can post photos and details if necessary, but obviously im not going to put my info out there just to prove a
point on some internet forum to someone i don't even know.
I get angry/rude with people who think they can just analyze my statements to prove me wrong, without actually debating any evidence or ideas. I
don't need peopel telling me im wrong because im thinking a certain way.. i can not tolerate that anymore..not because im an angry person, but
because all my life i've had people telling me to stop thinking a certain way, or about certain things.. i don't know how to explain it without
seeming even more angry/arrogant/ignorant etc etc.
as always, im prepared to be proven wrong about everything that comes out of my mouth. i have learnt time n time again that you never have the whole
truth, and sometimes you are so wrong it makes you feel very ashamed even. but i have reached a point in my own awareness where i know whats what, so
to speak.. its difficult to explain, like trying to explain an acid trip to someone whos never tripped for example.
im waffling..
but the point i made before;
You can not just say "thousands saw the planes hit the towers"..
Im not saying people did not see a plane flying about.. i just think you need to be prepared to accept that everyone has been decieved beyond what you
think is possible.
psychological warfare is a very interesting area.. you'd be suprised just how much it is used, both domestically and internationally..
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 04:01 PM by djdave2010
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Where is positive proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was an airplane engine recovered that did not belong to one of the planes that hit
either WTC?
I want proof, not a video from Youtube with a guy saying it's so. I want independent confirmation that this is true. You've said it in this
thread, where's the proof?
I know two people personally who saw the attack. Both live in NYC and worked downtown Manhattan. I also have a high-school friend who died in the
attack rescuing people. There were no holograms or missles, or phantom planes... I'll believe people I know who were there over internet 9/11
cultists... I've never seen evidence that is anything but circumstantial and often times outrageous suppositions made from very little...
I too am willing to accept the possibility that there was advanced knowledge of thuis attack, and that is what the government is hiding most... but
that it was planned and carried out secretly? Give me a break. Our government isn't that smart of capable of keeping secerts...
The "proof" that it occured is everywhere, it was on live TV, which of course just HAD to be manipulated... Thousands saw it, but none can be
believed??? Wow, just wow.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 04:03 PM by Zaphod58
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The ONLY place I've found saying that the engine is a CFM56 is on Rense's page. Even other pages that claim it link to his page.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 04:21 PM by ebayitup
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something is screwed up about 9/11 i'll give you that, and i for one do not believe the goverment account is even close to the full story. i'm
starting to think controled demolition even though i don't want to.
Originally posted by shrunkensimon
but the point i made before;
You can not just say "thousands saw the planes hit the towers"..
but that statement just make my nose bleed.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 04:28 PM by ebayitup
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Originally posted by shrunkensimon
Go on, provide me some solid evidence that a plane/s crashed into the WTC. You know aswell as i do you CAN NOT do this. Your evidence for a plane
crashing is no better than mine for a plane not crashing. However, i have the upper hand, because i actually have a proper explanation for my theory,
whereas the official story makes absolutely no sense.
amazing. reduntant cyclical logic. my turn:
Go on, provide me some solid evidence that a plane didn't crashe into the WTC. You know aswell as i do you CAN NOT do this. Your evidence for a plane
crashing is no better than mine for a plane not crashing(except for the thousands of eyewitnesses, photographs and videos that we can't use because
simon says). However, i have the upper hand, because i actually have a proper explanation for my theory (thousands of eyewitnesses, photographs and
videos that we can't use because simon says so), whereas shrunkensimon story makes absolutely no sense.
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reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 04:37 PM by sensfan
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Why have you started so many threads dealing with the same thing? going overboard for points or something? Mods, can't they all be pointed to one
post?
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