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posted on May, 9 2007 @ 11:53 AM
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A Note to Whom It May Concern

Please be informed that the purpose of this thread is not to discredit or ridicule this ATSer. This thread will not be brother to such threads as What is your opinion on Sleeper or Is sleeper genuine?. I have desired to create this thread because his main thread about extraterrestrials, I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials, is composed of a whopping 125 pages and focuses more on his information on extraterrestrials in general. This thread, however, was birthed to exclusively discuss his blog entry, A day with an Extraterrestrial. It is possible that this thread may deviate by discussing Sleeper's opinions in general. This is alright, but let us try to keep this discussion to his blog entry. An additional note should be made that I have Sleeper's permission to make a thread about his blog entry.

Introduction
Recently, I have been reading an ATSer’s blog entry that I have simply fell in love with. This ATSer, Sleeper, is a prominent poster who is famous for his thread entitled I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials. His blog entry, the only entry he has ever made, is entitled A day with an Extraterrestrial. The entry, written as a screenplay, features fictitious names, but is based on actual events (or so Sleeper says). Here is the entry’s introduction:


The story that follows is written as a screenplay. The names are fiction; the rest is based on real events, believe it or not.

From: blog.abovetopsecret.com......

Discussion

I became emotional while reading his blog entry over the past few hours. While reading, I wondered about many things such as: Is this guy for real? If he is, then this is the greatest story ever told! If not, then what is in it for him in deceiving me? As was stated previously, these thoughts, among many others, raced through my mind as I read the entry. I became intoxicated by his story and wondered what would occur next within the story, as I took breaks while reading. My brain created hundreds of questions about his story and I most wanted to get my questions answered. Thus, the idea for this thread entered into my consciousness. I have some questions for you Sleeper. Here are just a few:

- Was every word typed in your blog entry spoken or did you feel the need to add additional words and story elements into it?
- What do you believe may happen to you after you die?
- Have you ever come across a story where one remembers memories from a past life that takes place on a different planet?
- Have you ever experienced another incident as the one detailed in your blog?
- What family and friends of yours, if any, believe your story (if you ever shared it with them)?
- What will happen to the “ordinary person” (one who does not have that personal history with extraterrestrials, as you have had) when he or she dies?
- What are Milton’s or your opinions of ghosts?
- How would Milton describe religious stories, such as Jesus Christ performing various miracles and rising from the dead?
- I am not well-versed in terms of extraterrestrials, but where do the aliens known as “Greys” and “Reptilians” come into place in your story?
- What is your opinion on “Out of body experiences?” Can one successfully leave his or her body and float around the universe forever?
- How are the human governments able to victoriously keep this information “under wraps?” How can a conspiracy (the existence of aliens and human interaction with them) this huge be a secret for this long?
- Why do the people of Uranus get food from Earth?
- What do you know about John Lear's soul collector that is located on the moon?
- In your story, are there are two opposing factors: the group that wants to help humanity and the group that does not want to help humanity?

I am not trying to discredit you, Sleeper. Thus, if you do not know an answer to a question, please state that you do not know. Thanks!!!

Here are just some comments I have about the story:

- I loved it and I think it should be a movie!!!
- I liked how you said that you would never cheat on your wife and then you had sexual relations with various women on your travels.
- I enjoyed how the extraterrestrials made love.
- I liked how you did not want to return to Earth after various stages of the trip.
- I liked how you did not want to return to your body after you left it.

My current view of the afterlife is that, when one dies and goes to wherever he or she is meant to go, that person will not care about their family and friends here on Earth. That is, if my view of Heaven is right, then it will be a great place to be and one will not care about simple things like the people on Earth. Your story seems to discredit this viewpoint, though. I did like how you loved to see your family on Uranus. I have also read, mostly in various religions, that the human body is a limitation to the spirit or soul. It was nice to see this idea confirmed by your story.

I really did enjoy this story and I am so jealous of your experiences. It seems like one hell of trip. Thanks for sharing!!! If any other ATSer has a question or a comment about Sleeper’s blog entry, please share it here.






posted on May, 14 2007 @ 10:35 AM
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Doesn't look like to many members come in to this thread as often as I thought they would. I love fantasy & sci-fi.


I was facinated with Sleeper's blog and couldn't stop reading until the end. It's like the whole world stopped and it was me inside the story. I was wondering if all of it was complete truth or was things added or taken away from the story? It said based on real events from Sleeper so I would like to know that. A movie would be great, and I'd definetly watch it in aw if it came to the big screen. I was wondering what Sleeper's wife thinks of this story and is she jealous of all the sexual experiences of those events?



posted on May, 14 2007 @ 05:07 PM
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sleeper come to this thread





posted on May, 14 2007 @ 09:19 PM
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i read sleepers whole blog and was very intrigued by it, i was VERY entertained to say the least

i think sleeper is genuine and i dont think what he says is very hard to believe, so if someone were to ask me " do you believe sleeper?" i would say yes, yes i believe sleeper



posted on May, 15 2007 @ 07:46 AM
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It's good sci-fi but not completely accurate. The part at the end where the aliens harvest the babies from his wife's uterus...Dude! It takes more than 8 hours for an embryo to implant itself in the uterus wall. I'm sure he can explain that away as some genetic mutation, but I wasn't impressed with his science there.



posted on May, 15 2007 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by they see ALL
- Was every word typed in your blog entry spoken or did you feel the need to add additional words and story elements into it?


Hi ALL,

I wrote what I could remember, or what Milton opened up for me to remember---there were some areas that were ambiguous and I filled them in the best I could, but I will not elaborate on that



- What do you believe may happen to you after you die?



There are a couple of possibilities and leaving this solar system is the one I’m angling for. But Milton wants me to stick around.



- Have you ever come across a story where one remembers memories from a past life that takes place on a different planet?


No I haven’t



- Have you ever experienced another incident as the one detailed in your blog?


Yes, and I may go into them in other blogs if and when I can find the time to write about them.



- What family and friends of yours, if any, believe your story (if you ever shared it with them)?


I haven’t really talked about this to family and certainly not to friends. I have brought the subject up to gage how much their eyes glaze over, and when they do I stop.



- What will happen to the “ordinary person” (one who does not have that personal history with extraterrestrials, as you have had) when he or she dies?


Many will go to another planet on another star system where they will be directed to their next phase, some will move forward others backwards, some will come back to earth.



- What are Milton’s or your opinions of ghosts?


They are souls kind of stuck in the membrane between this life and the next one, mostly ETs keep them there until they move them elsewhere or put them back into this life

- How would Milton describe religious stories, such as Jesus Christ performing various miracles and rising from the dead?


Bringing people back to life, returning sight to the blind, and multiplying fish and bread to feed the “minds” of the multitudes are metaphors for enlightenment




- I am not well-versed in terms of extraterrestrials, but where do the aliens known as “Greys” and “Reptilians” come into place in your story?


I didn’t mention them in the blog I don’t think, but they are not what most people have described them on these forums, I may delve deep into them some day.




- What is your opinion on “Out of body experiences?” Can one successfully leave his or her body and float around the universe forever?


Once we reach a certain level we can, otherwise we need an escort like Milton



- How are the human governments able to victoriously keep this information “under wraps?” How can a conspiracy (the existence of aliens and human interaction with them) this huge be a secret for this long?


With the help of ET---and the ridicule factor



- Why do the people of Uranus get food from Earth?


That’s a good question, perhaps for the same reason we often crave food from our home town when we live far away---also it was for a certain group of people that received this food---this is one of the sketchy details that I have to fill in the blanks.



- What do you know about John Lear's soul collector that is located on the moon?


I will hold comment on that for now



- In your story, are there are two opposing factors: the group that wants to help humanity and the group that does not want to help humanity?


My group wants to introduce more technology, the other wants to keep earth in the Stone Age.



posted on May, 15 2007 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
Hi ALL,


hello...


I wrote what I could remember, or what Milton opened up for me to remember---there were some areas that were ambiguous and I filled them in the best I could, but I will not elaborate on that


please elaborate on that...

this is one of the main reasons, in my opinion, that people don't believe in the bible (because they believe that every detail of the biblical stories could not have been recalled by the writers)...

and what of the cliffhanger-like ending???

how were you able to know that occurred as it did???


Yes, and I may go into them in other blogs if and when I can find the time to write about them.


i have a feeling that i am going to fall in love with your blog (okay, i admit, i already have)...


I haven’t really talked about this to family and certainly not to friends. I have brought the subject up to gage how much their eyes glaze over, and when they do I stop.


your wife doesn't believe you???

did she even try to believe???


Many will go to another planet on another star system where they will be directed to their next phase, some will move forward others backwards, some will come back to earth.


why do some come back to earth???


Bringing people back to life, returning sight to the blind, and multiplying fish and bread to feed the “minds” of the multitudes are metaphors for enlightenment


that's what i figured...


I didn’t mention them in the blog I don’t think, but they are not what most people have described them on these forums, I may delve deep into them some day.


no, you didn't mentioned them in your blog (but i was just curious)...


With the help of ET---and the ridicule factor


true...



That’s a good question, perhaps for the same reason we often crave food from our home town when we live far away---also it was for a certain group of people that received this food---this is one of the sketchy details that I have to fill in the blanks.


so the people on uranus were like humans (or were they from earth)???



I will hold comment on that for now


are you a politician???

just kidding (i can't wait for an answer)...



My group wants to introduce more technology, the other wants to keep earth in the Stone Age.


what members are in each group???

and here is a random question:

did those kids that were in the park see you leave the invisible ufo???

THANKS!!!





posted on May, 16 2007 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by they see ALL
please elaborate on that...

this is one of the main reasons, in my opinion, that people don't believe in the bible (because they believe that every detail of the biblical stories could not have been recalled by the writers)...


Those who believe in the bible believe it was inspired by god, therefore the humans writing it didn’t need to remember every detail.

Those who don’t believe---well they aren’t going to believe short of seeing god---same with my story



and what of the cliffhanger-like ending???


I got tired of writing and ended it there



how were you able to know that occurred as it did???


How is anyone to know that their lives are what they are---we have memories and the memories of those around us---same as what I have minus the collaborators




your wife doesn't believe you???


She does but is not sure because they don’t let her remember enough to where she knows absolutely.




why do some come back to earth???


Mostly punishment, suicides usually come back moments after





so the people on uranus were like humans (or were they from earth)???


Those that sabotaged me were from earth, there is a community of them but I don’t know the number.
The others are similar to us but are born there




what members are in each group???


Not sure



and here is a random question:

did those kids that were in the park see you leave the invisible ufo???


They didn’t act like they saw me, but they were far enough away that it wouldn’t have been easy to see me.



posted on May, 16 2007 @ 10:47 AM
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thanks!!!





posted on May, 16 2007 @ 09:04 PM
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I'm fasinated by your story, but that's all it is, a story. Just like the Bible or Moby Dick, Romeo & Juliet. With all this experience in your journey, you don't have one bit of proof or evidence that it actually happened ?
I can see how cults, religious fanactics, gangs and groups of people can be started on word alone. With this being said Sleeper I still love your experience and can only hope that you're journey will become reality for others. I just can't see why they picked you and you're allowed to tell everyone about it? I am skecptical but will keep an open mind, because of the human history of believe this and find out later it was that. I hope to see the people I love and miss when I leave earth and tell them so many things I wasn't able to tell them when they were alive.

I also want to believe that we humans have the ability to biuld spaceships ( flying saucers ) and all this so called alien technology without the aliens. But I read alot and try to read between the lines. I know that our technology has just exploded in the last century compared to before that. But I also believe that some inventions can inspire another 20 inventions to occur. Like the computer and the internet. I hope you understand what I'm saying Sleeper. I do love your stories and will always read them in amazement.



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Solarskye
I'm fasinated by your story, but that's all it is, a story. Just like the Bible or Moby Dick, Romeo & Juliet. With all this experience in your journey, you don't have one bit of proof or evidence that it actually happened ?


I don’t tell the story expecting anyone to believe for the reasons you mention above, but what’s in it for me to come forward and tell it?---Personally I’m embarrassed to admit I’m a ufo nut---lol---the first book I wrote about this stuff was in 1995 and then I put the manuscript away because I didn’t want anyone to think me nuts. It remained in my closet for two years---until six months before the fiftieth anniversary of the Roswell crash in 1997, when I inexplicably took it out and self published it---even though I knew when Roswell happened I was not aware it was the 50th anniversary until the book publisher told me about it, and said I should go to Roswell where I would probably sell lots of books.

I didn’t go because I was not going to associate with ufo nuts, and certainly wasn’t going to be one of them---lol

Unlike most people who write their first book and think themselves the next great American writer, I was ashamed of what I wrote and did little to get the book out---to this day the book languishes mostly unread and unknown---I have done nothing to sell the book other than put it on amazon.com

A year after the book came out someone in California came across it and invited me to a ufo conference where they wanted me to be part of a UFO documentary they were making, I went but did not participate because they wanted me to admit I was a believer---after all I did write a book about Roswell. I could not get on camera where everyone in the world would know that I was a ufo nut, could not do it, even though that might have done wonders for my book sales.

Since then I have been approached many times with offers for more exposure through seminars, radio and television but continue to decline, although I did two radio interviews a year after the book came out.

I write on the internet such as ats because of the anonymity factor---until a certain poster who I befriended turned against me and gave my name to other members.

Anyway I remain uncomfortable with the ufo nut tag, and do very little to get this message out via other channels besides here at ats.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it---believe it or not---makes no difference to me---



P.S.

I have no interest in entertaining people with fictional material and if I decide that is all I’m doing I will stop writing about ET---regardless that they assigned me this ridicules task---


There are others like me that “know” but apparently have no desire or need to share that information with others because there is nothing to be gained by doing so---and why look foolish to the vast majority that are out of the loop concerning the big picture, and remain happy in their oblivion of reality, and their need and desire to remain in a safe place bubble of illusions of their everyday lives---lol

Not speaking about those like you who I presume really want to know and are frustrated by people like me because we can’t prove our experiences.

I’m equally frustrated but can only deliver what they allow me to deliver.
:bnghd:

[edit on 17-5-2007 by sleeper]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 06:17 PM
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Sleeper,'

A personal question of mine I'm hoping you could answer. I feel like I am on earth as a form of punishment. I feel like I have learned an incredible amount while here about how I can easily turn into Mr Hyde when I'm trying to become more like Dr. Jeckle. It's possible that I was pretty evil in my past life. Life here on earth has taught me a bunch. I long for the days when I transcend my current shell, and can feel free emotionaly. I can't help but feel that we are all limited here on earth. Just something that nags my subconcious...something is telling me that the world around me is somehow not right or in harmony.

How does one get back to being a productive being in this universe. And if I am ready to move forward with my spirituallity what would be the best way in seeking that help from those who could. I understand one must help themselves, but I feel like I'm becoming a compassionate person. How should I proced with my life if I want to grow in this area. What is the main message to learn about life while here on earth. COuld use some direction.



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I can't help but feel that we are all limited here on earth. Just something that nags my subconcious...something is telling me that the world around me is somehow not right or in harmony.


Hi BASSPLYR,

We are limited here on earth, we don’t have a fraction of what is available to others in better places, we either lost or never had those higher rights.

Harmony is not of this world, some can harness it for a time but it can easily slip away because it’s not a privilege many enjoy while on this rock.



How does one get back to being a productive being in this universe.


The old fashion way, we have to earn it with blood sweat and tears, in other words is anything worthwhile easy?



And if I am ready to move forward with my spirituallity what would be the best way in seeking that help from those who could.


There is nothing wrong with looking out for number one, as long as number one is never you.

As far as others high up lending you a hand, they will but you have to make the first move and follow through, and they may fill in the pieces or let them fall into place, but the moment you hesitate, they go on break and may never return.


I understand one must help themselves, but I feel like I'm becoming a compassionate person. How should I proced with my life if I want to grow in this area.


Compassion is a long track record that is measured by those who benefited from it and one never knows how they scored until its all said and done.



What is the main message to learn about life while here on earth. COuld use some direction.


That we are not all that and a bag of chips


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posted on May, 18 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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I agree with you humans as a whole do require a lot more humility. Compassion and humility are maybe the few things I should focus on. I agree with you there is no point in improving myself if it doesn't benifit number one, which to me whould be the universe as a whole and all it's interconnectedness.

I feel that my compassion and empathy will be one of the more notable qualitys I possessed while spending my time here on earth. Now to learn to control my temper better. Any advice with that? Sometimes I feel devalued and get bitter about it. Mainly at work. I guess humility in that respect would be core to improving that facet of my life and personality.

Now to figure out if I can arrange an "interview or a meeting" with some one who would make a good mentor in this respect. Does Milton have any friends who wouldn't mind watching over me as a teacher from time to time? and if so how does one ask them for help, just think it sincerely, or is there a formal method?

Thanks again for your prompt response to my inquery. Again I am thankful for your advice.



posted on May, 18 2007 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I feel that my compassion and empathy will be one of the more notable qualitys I possessed while spending my time here on earth. Now to learn to control my temper better. Any advice with that? Sometimes I feel devalued and get bitter about it. Mainly at work. I guess humility in that respect would be core to improving that facet of my life and personality.



The best steel as we all know has to go through the fire and take some pounding. Everyone has anger; some hide it better than others. Anger is the fire that will be extinguish before we can move to higher places

Situations that bring the anger out of us are traps, speed traps, sting operations, call it what you will but believe me you are being set up every time a situation comes along that pisses you off.

If you look at it that way you should be able to stop and reflect on whether to react every time something or someone pushes your buttons.

It may take awhile but you should be able to eventually control yourself knowing that it’s only a set up to test you.




Now to figure out if I can arrange an "interview or a meeting" with some one who would make a good mentor in this respect. Does Milton have any friends who wouldn't mind watching over me as a teacher from time to time? and if so how does one ask them for help, just think it sincerely, or is there a formal method?


They really don’t like face to face because it’s way to distracting, plus that’s not how they operate since once people know without a doubt they will change simply for that reason voiding the test



Thanks again for your prompt response to my inquery. Again I am thankful for your advice.


You are welcome!


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posted on May, 18 2007 @ 06:54 PM
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Again thank you for generously answering all of my questions. Thats pretty cool in my book. I agree with you about anger. It's something I've been working on. The perspective you gave me on how to decide how to react to it makes good sense. I'll keep it in mind when I'm inconvienienced next time. Really a lot of the time people become angry because they are simply inconvinienced in one way or another to varying degrees.

Your right it is a good excercise to restrain or redirect anger to something positive.

I agree that a direct face to face is going to just compel the person to "be good" but not for the reason of truly wanting to change. Good point.

I didn't really mean a direct face to face, just a way to communicate with one of Miltons friends. I would like to seek some mentorship. Or some guidance from time to time. How does one begin that process.



posted on May, 19 2007 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I didn't really mean a direct face to face, just a way to communicate with one of Miltons friends. I would like to seek some mentorship. Or some guidance from time to time. How does one begin that process.



They are aware of your desires but only act on your actions, in other words all our actions and frustrations are countered with similar actions and frustrations. They are there with you handing you the rope to hang yourself with or the rope to pull you out of the muck. Some of us tend to reach for the noose instead of the other rope out of pride.

We all have our guides with us 24/7, but these guides will slap us down and kick us where the sun doesn’t shine in a heart beat when we stray.

Why do bad things happen to good people? Because perhaps being good in our own eyes is not good enough.

These statements are certainly not directed at you or anyone else they are for demonstration purposes.

Guides are subtle and remain hidden in between physical dimensions, yet they are as real as we are, and more so.

Hope that helps!



posted on May, 21 2007 @ 11:38 AM
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yeah it kinda does. thanks sleeper.

I was noticing something today while driving to work. I was listining to the song "what a beautiful word" as it came on the radio randomly. I was stuck in traffic so I figured it would be calming.

I looked around and realized that for every thing that is concidered negative in the world, from my perspective at least, has at least as many if not more beautiful things that act as a natural counterpoint.

If earth is a prison than the gaurds and correctional officers have given us plenty of tools to use to free ourselves. They are literaly right there in front of us. we just choose what we want to see, and unfortunantly most people choose to see only the negative vibes infront of them and never see the ones that are equally abundantly around them that are useful and wholesome.

They say reality is whatever we focus our attention on. We proove it every moment we make decisions like that.



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 01:09 PM
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To me, it's a bad attempt at science fiction, there is no dept to it and the story is predictable and full of clichés.



posted on May, 23 2007 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by DarkSide
To me, it's a bad attempt at science fiction, there is no dept to it and the story is predictable and full of clichés.



The DarkSide has always apposed light, truth and goodness---


You are only doing your job--
---truth





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