Amero Agenda Admitted On CNBC

Intro, Parts 1 & 2: SPP Agenda videos that damajikninja
posted have some very classic Bush moments in history!!
Bush says how awesome their hospitality was!
That this is very commansensable yeah he makes up his own words not my words.

While this is a very important topic, I just had to laugh while Im watching W threw those videos.. He is a joke, the whole Idea is a joke.. (not a hoax, seems real enough, just sayin here..
Im not worried to much, once it goes to pass, its going to be taken out by "WE" the people.

I might have lost faith in my governments leaders, but not my fellow man..

Originally posted by Columbus

"The Supreme Law of Our Nation" are just words.


Stubborn people refuse to see that new nations are inevitable. The United States is not going to colonize the stars no matter how Nazionalistic you might be today.


In philosophy, rights are a fuzzy concept. Calling them "inalienable" doesn't make them any less fuzzy. The claim "higher power" is why it will eventually disappear into history, because there is none.


Making it a religion on par with Islamic Fundamentalism. You don't so much believe in the Constitution, what it says, Freedom, Liberty, Justice, as in the idea it was inspired by a higher power.

And this is why the Constitution of the United States will pass into History.

#1 You are in need of some remedial American History classes.

The US Constitution is not inspired by a "higher" power, it was created by men: (from the preamble) "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.". What you and others forget or do not understand that in the United States of America it is We the People who loan the power to our government. It does not matter who is elected they have power by the grace of the people and we the people are responible for the government not the government for the people.

Now the Declaration of Independence in part reads:

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.".

#2 You betray your true agenda with "Nazionalistic".

To imply Nationalism is "Nazionalistic" you are delusional at best. Nazi stands for "National Socialist German Workers' Party" The creation of the EU and the proposed creation of a NAU is closer to fullfilling not only the Nazi parties ideal, but the Global Socialist Elite's world agenda.

First the EU, then the NAU and then the final hegemony will be the Asian Union. " Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,".

Casual One



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Connie Fogal On The Corporate North American Union

Connie Fogal, the redoubtable leader of the Canadian Action Party, delivers a hard hitting and passionate warning to all who refuse to believe that our democracy is being usurped by an elite few and is being sold off, brick by brick, to the highest bidder. Our very own elected politicians are in collusion with powerful private corporate interests, working together behind closed doors to bring in the ‘Security and Prosperity Partnership’ by “stealth” – as one proponent of the agreement put it – without public knowledge or consultation. In this presentation, she argues that Canadian sovereignty is very much at stake and she urges us to become informed and to take action before we ignorantly surrender all of our freedoms and public services to foreign corporate rule.
video.google.ca...

Originally posted by iori_komei
A monetary union does not mean the end of sovereignty for one thing.

Look at this article, from www.infowars.com, as the Amero is not the only thing being merged...


'Coming Through! The NAFTA Super Highway'
New American | August 7, 2006
by Kelly Taylor

...The planned NAFTA Super Highway would radically reconfigure not only the physical landscape of these United States, but our political and economic landscapes as well.
Kelly Taylor is an Austin-based writer and filmmaker, and the producer of a politically based TV talk show...


...Integration vs. Independence

How would all of this affect you, your family, and your community? Let us count the ways. One of the most striking features of the proposed Super Highway is the plan to do away with our borders, as evidenced by the joint U.S.-Mexico Customs facility already under construction in Kansas City, Missouri. A U.S. Customs checkpoint in Kansas City? But that's a thousand miles inside America's heartland; isn't the purpose of U.S. Customs to check people and cargo at our borders?...

full article here:
www.infowars.com...

Originally posted by CasualOne


To imply Nationalism is "Nazionalistic" you are delusional at best. Nazi stands for "National Socialist German Workers' Party" The creation of the EU and the proposed creation of a NAU is closer to fullfilling not only the Nazi parties ideal, but the Global Socialist Elite's world agenda.

Its seems you suffer from a bit of delusion as well. The NAZI party were anything but socialists. They use the term socialist in their name to add a sense of revolution to their political order, but there really was no revolution for the people. instead it was a revolution of industry leaders, bankers, and the upper class in general. The nazi's did not enguage in any social programs or reforms that benefited the people of germany, and the same goes with the italian fascists.

Fascism and Socialism are NOT totalitarian twins, despite the conservative propaganda.

The EU and the NAU are more likely to fulfill the roles of fascism not socialism (im basing that on who is actually pushing these ideals forward.)

Finally, why would a gobal social system be bad for the world?

Originally posted by iori_komei
For instance there are many places that use the USD either as the sole
currency, or as a twin currency with there own, they are still sovereign
countries, yet they use the USD.

Places use the USD baceause that's part of the m.o. of American Imperialsim. It's one of the biggest proofs that American Imperialism exists. It's the de facto world currency because we're the de facto over-ruling global empire. American Imperialism and Dollar Hegemony both fuel each other thru direct feedback loops. Or another way to view it is, Dollar Hegemony is the engine and the Military is the vehicle for American Empire sponsered global domination aka globalization.

Our establishment has already all but taken over the entire world, but now to ensure their everlasting power they must take away the strength and sovereignty of the only ones who can stop them: US.

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I can't say what I really want to say here.

I am bound by the restriction of no swear words, so I'm trying to just let this one go. but it's freaken hard.

The Amero, as is the Euro, is a precursor to a cashless society, which will undoubtedly lead to an erosion of civil liberties, and an absolute loss of privacy. THAT is what has me worried - I couldn't care less about political agendas, as long as I can lead my life in relative privacy and safety.

The fact the UK has not taken on the EURO is moot - they will get there eventually, and the erosion of privacy/civil liberties is probably the worst (IMO) of the Western democracies - the last quote I heard/read is that a Londoner's daily routine is captured on 300 cameras on an average day. That's plain nuts,

Last note on the Amero - I am sure it is not a coincidence that the CA dollar has gone up in value significantly over the last few years, becoming close to par with the USD (at near 90c/dollar now). This is significant in that the Canadian dollar for most of the last 30 years has been in the 70-75c range (or less at times), for purely competitive reasons in export markets. Again, I personally think this is another percursor to the Amero - having our dollar near the USD would minimize economic impact.

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by iori_komei
Will it be impleimented by 2010, no, it is simply impossible to do

You are wrong.

Look how quickly the EU went from a trade zone to a Federal Union.
With the fears over the US economy and the Dollar, it will have no choice but to accept this Amero idea.

I did'nt mean the 'Amero', I mean a full fledged system like the EU.

Originally posted by IronDogg
Who the heck came up with "The Amero"? Why not the Canuro? Or the Canoonie? How about the "CanAmMe"? I guess there are no Canadians on the board in the Illuminati...

It was a Canadian, Herbert Grubel, who coined the term 'Amero', it was created because it represented all three countries, since they are part of
the North American continent.

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what about all the drug cartels? the mexican mafia? the MAJOR corruption in mexico??? will they bring it over if this becomes a "borderless" nation?
i think Mexico would trip

Originally posted by TheBadge
what about all the drug cartels? the Mexican mafia? the MAJOR corruption in Mexico??? will they bring it over if this becomes a "borderless" nation?
i think Mexico would trip

Well if you legalize drugs, you would all but destroy the drug cartels and
all organized crime based on drug production and sales.


Personally, I think we need to bring Mexico up to or near are economic standards before we create such a union.

As for corruption, well it's easier to deal with corruption where you have
jurisdiction, than somewhere you don't.

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Originally posted by InSpiteOf


Its seems you suffer from a bit of delusion as well. The NAZI party were anything but socialists. They use the term socialist in their name to add a sense of revolution to their political order, but there really was no revolution for the people. instead it was a revolution of industry leaders, bankers, and the upper class in general. The nazi's did not enguage in any social programs or reforms that benefited the people of germany, and the same goes with the italian fascists.

Fascism and Socialism are NOT totalitarian twins, despite the conservative propaganda.

The EU and the NAU are more likely to fulfill the roles of fascism not socialism (im basing that on who is actually pushing these ideals forward.)

Finally, why would a gobal social system be bad for the world?

#1 Socialism- An "economic, social and political doctrine which expresses the struggle for the equal distribution of wealth by eliminating private property and the exploitative ruling class. In practice, such a distribution of wealth is achieved by social ownership of the means of production, exchange and diffusion." (Marx for Beginners (New York: Pantheon Books, 1976), 152.)

And from Websters- Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: 'sO-sh&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.

Critical thinking leads me to say, yes the NAZI party was/is socialist.

I agree they were also fascists, just for fun: Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism By Dr. Lawrence Britt

#2 I did not nor have I ever confused socialism and fascism as you contend.

#3 The EU is not fascistic now nor will the NAU start out that way but the EU is socialistic and the US is moving that direction. The NAU will bring more gov't control and regulation into everyday life. You make the call.

#4 Who would you rather have managing your life? Should gov't regulate the size and price of bananas? Should bureaucrats decide how many patients a doctor sees an hour and how much time to spend with each one? (Not to mention should said bureaucrat decide the care provided to your sick child?) How much "social" control do you need? Redistribution of wealth? Why should a Nation, or individual, that has given blood, sweat, and tears to build a wealthy, prosperous society have the fruits of their labors stolen by "taxation"?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Read it carfully and think critically. You can learn so much from this one sentence.

One thing it teaches is: When you give control of your Life to someone or something else you will also lose your Liberty and the ability to pursue your Happiness.

"In the abundance or water only the fool is thirsty."- Bob Marley

Keep it Casual

The NAZI party was only Socialist in name, they were vehemently
against anything that had to do with Socialism, which is why they
banned the Communist party.

It is easier to tie a few collective currencies into a single global currency, but csh will not mean a thing in the future. Your asset of greatest value, beyond cash even, will be an embedded storage device.

I also notice the British Pound is worth 2 Dollars, the US currency has been hit and is now weak, along with the markets.

Some countries are re-investing into the Euro than the Dollar, which is also gaining on the British Pound.

In order to ensure global competition I think it might be a good idea, but losing sovereignty? that's a hard pill to swallow after establishing 200 years of independance from Europe.

#1 Socialism- An "economic, social and political doctrine which expresses the struggle for the equal distribution of wealth by eliminating private property and the exploitative ruling class. In practice, such a distribution of wealth is achieved by social ownership of the means of production, exchange and diffusion." (Marx for Beginners (New York: Pantheon Books, 1976), 152.)

Critical thinking leads me to say, yes the NAZI party was/is socialist.

If critical thinking has lead you to believe the NAZI party was socialist based on those definitions you listed then im going to guess that you haven't read very much (if anything) on the NAZI's class policies/politics. Big Business THRIVED under Mussolini and Hitler, because those two pushed for massive privtization. Labour and trade unions were crushed in both countries. Farm co-operatives were attacked and crushed by blackshirts, wages were slashed by up to 40%.

But if you believe the NAZI's were really socialists in part or whole, which policies would you say reflect this belief?

If you want a good read on this subject, i suggest "Black Shirts and Reds" by Michael Parenti.

#2 I did not nor have I ever confused socialism and fascism as you contend.

Fair enough, but to be frank, the comment wasnt just aimed at you. A lot of people seem to believe that fascism and socialism go hand and hand. I wanted to state otherwise.

#3 The EU is not fascistic now nor will the NAU start out that way but the EU is socialistic and the US is moving that direction. The NAU will bring more gov't control and regulation into everyday life. You make the call.

You think the US is moving more socialistic? Really? The way i see things, the US is becomming more like an unregulated capitalist state, kind of like what it was in the 1890's, and we all know what a disaster that was.

#4 Who would you rather have managing your life? Should gov't regulate the size and price of bananas? Should bureaucrats decide how many patients a doctor sees an hour and how much time to spend with each one? (Not to mention should said bureaucrat decide the care provided to your sick child?) How much "social" control do you need? Redistribution of wealth? Why should a Nation, or individual, that has given blood, sweat, and tears to build a wealthy, prosperous society have the fruits of their labors stolen by "taxation"?

I dont agree with all aspects of socialism, i lean towards a social democracy. Hell i live in a sort of socialist country and frankly, every dollar tahts taken from my cheque that goes into social programs is one dollar im happy is going to some good use. Im happy i have healthcare (though thanks to privatization, its getting worse.) Im happy i have a social safetty net to help the poor and unfortunate. In my mind, we're all stuck on this planet together and its about time we started acting like it. BUt thats just me.

One thing it teaches is: When you give control of your Life to someone or something else you will also lose your Liberty and the ability to pursue your Happiness.

And what if the control you give up actually goes to benefit human kind? Should you be allowed to pursue your vision of happiness if it infringes on the lives of everyone else on this planet?



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[edit on 24-4-2007 by InSpiteOf]

Everyone else on this planet is not a United States citizen. I thought this thread was about the 'amero' and its being put into use in the United States.

I point to the Constitution of the United States of America

Article I
Section 8

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures

Originally posted by shooterbrody
Everyone else on this planet is not a United States citizen. I thought this thread was about the 'amero' and its being put into use in the United States.

Well it's about the creation of an Amero like single currency to be
implimented in the U.S., Canada and Mexico, so it's not just about the
United States.

I point to the Constitution of the United States of America

Article I
Section 8

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures

Yes, which means that they can decide what currency is used, it does
not mean we can not have a common currency.

It means only congress has the power to decide currency. Therefore if The Canadians and Mexicans want to cede their soverignty to their currency to the U.S. congress then the 'amero' can go forward.

Originally posted by billybob
you'll make a great cog in the wheels of the worldwide police state.

I can't see how you get this from my words. I have more real trouble with government power than tinfoils pretend to have. I welcome something more substantial and international than the US Constitution.

Originally posted by CasualOne
What you and others forget or do not understand that in the United States of America it is We the People who loan the power to our government. It does not matter who is elected they have power by the grace of the people and we the people are responible for the government not the government for the people.

Exactly why such tinfoil concerns are unwarranted. Changing to an international currency is something that will not just happen, but when it does it will only be through consent of the people.

"...and of Nature's God..." "...by their Creator..."

Fatal Expressions.

...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, ... Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; ... mankind are more disposed to suffer, ... than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

Such as when Iraq's government was abolished and it became necessary to write a new constitution for that country. They did not simply say, give us the US Constitution (or the Magna Carta for that matter), it's already perfect!

To imply Nationalism is "Nazionalistic" you are delusional at best. Nazi stands for "National Socialist German Workers' Party" The creation of the EU and the proposed creation of a NAU is closer to fullfilling not only the Nazi parties ideal, but the Global Socialist Elite's world agenda.

Nazis were delusional with fantasies of global superiority just like American Nationalists are today. Welcome to Planet America everyone! No, I hold that this world should be governed by the voice of the people of the whole world, not one nation, and not the United States, no matter how great the Constitution is. It's still flawed and limited.

Originally posted by Columbus

Originally posted by billybob
you'll make a great cog in the wheels of the worldwide police state.

I can't see how you get this from my words. I have more real trouble with government power than tinfoils pretend to have. I welcome something more substantial and international than the US Constitution.

exactly what i read.
you are for a super-powerful, centralized government, ie. a worldwide police state.

the US constitution is about protecting the SOVEREIGN rights of all individuals.
look sovereign up.

the magna carta is about protecting the SOVERIEGN rights of indioviduals.

if you are for protecting the individual's SOVEREIGN rights, then i apologize for having misread you meaning.