Originally posted by Columbus

I honestly don't think this would cause peace.

It isn't causing war in Europe.

This is a totally different situation and the fact they are doing this so secretly makes it even more suspicious. America and Canada could combine currencies but imo its still better to keep them independent of each other for various reasons. Don't even get me started on how I think the Mexican dollar would be chaos to try to combine into a 3 way currency. I am happy with the Canadian dollar and there is a lot more problems they could be fixing then attempting to break our monetary system.

Originally posted by Columbus
The Constitution of the United States of America is an important historical document, but trying to preserve it as law forever is like trying to preserve the Magna Carta as law forever. It clearly has flaws, for example, it is incapable by itself of preventing the corruption you are so concerned about.

you'll make a great cog in the wheels of the worldwide police state.

Anybody start watching those videos from my last post yet? We just rolled to a new page in the thread, and I hope they dont get swept under the rug.

Well when it (not if) happens you will have 3 options: Adapt, Hide or Fight.

Adapt is to go with the flow. It might end up utopian like Star Trek (snicker) or more like 1984 (off by a few years).

Hide is to stake your claim in the wilderness and live life like Grizzley Adams. If you truely know what you are doing and plan enough ahead you might make it or sadly not, bad luck happens. If you don't know what you are doing odds of survival are very, very low to none.

Fight, overthrowing the seated government takes lots of like minded individuals working together with good communication and logistic. Ultimately your fate is victory or defeat. On a personal level you will die in conflicts or not.

Only you can decide your fate here. In otherwords you must choose, but choose wisely.

Americans have endured a decade which has been anything but the best of times. We the people have been pushed well beyond any preconceived breaking point. Our civil liberties and innocence were both lassoed by the whimsical 'war on drugs/terrorism' (which, in a sick ironic twist, was declared and implemented by the very source of 99% of the drugs and the terror!).

The Waco fiasco, Oklahoma City & NYC bombings, along with various airline disasters (all black operations) became integral in a disturbing pattern. Law abiding citizens were being stone cold MASSACRED without even a little scrutiny from the previously fickle mass media. According to those kooky 'conspiracy theorists', all indications pointed to the same unthinkable scenario: The U.S. was being attacked by its own corrupt leaders? Right... so stock up on tin foil hats and copies of 'Catcher In The Rye'?

Even pasture-grazing Americans started to question exactly who was 'minding the store' when the electionS were stolen. Issues such corporate scandals, homeland security, military actions, botched cover-ups, immigration, environmental concerns, defense contracts, and especially accountability have obviously not been handled for the good of the people. Will there even be an election in 2008, albeit fake? At this rate, one has to wonder.


By openly catering to nepotism and big business, our government is sending us a message loud and clear that echos from sea to shining sea, "We're untouchable." Dividing the populous with race issues, religious affiliation, party-line politics, sexual orientation, and other special interests; has been a top priority. We the people can and must find common enough ground to make a stand and restore the state of the union before we find ourselves merged with Mexico and Canada.

The easiest and most effective way to get the point across is to announce our intentions and just stay at home. We can easily force this out-of-control contraption to come to a screeching halt by means of a non-violent protest. We just pick a date or an event (attackinging Iran, etc) then stay home and tie up the phone lines at all the major banking institutions...for as long as it takes. No current law would be broken and this very well may be our only hope at achieving a palatable outcome.

In this case I feel like the patriotic thing to do is.....well....nothing. And fast!

Originally posted by iori_komei
Will it be impleimented by 2010, no, it is simply impossible to do

You are wrong.

Look how quickly the EU went from a trade zone to a Federal Union.
With the fears over the US economy and the Dollar, it will have no choice but to accept this Amero idea.

Its like the UK and the Euro. The UK economy is about to take a dive, we've been strong out of the Eurozone, but we will have to join soon due to our economy. And its only a matter of time (I say 5 years). Heck, we even have dual currency in the UK, you can spend Euro's at major retail outlets.

Take a look at the new £20, the design is based on a Euro note.

Originally posted by Infoholic
Tony Blair has been put in the spotlight by bringing a Constitution back to the table that his people have voted down

No,
We in the United Kingdom never got the chance to vote on the Constitution, it was dropped after the French people said no.

Originally posted by Columbus

I honestly don't think this would cause peace.

It isn't causing war in Europe.

In fact the whole point of the European Union in the first place, just after WWII, was to prevent things like the two world wars! It seems to have worked, so much so that half of the countries behind the "old Iron Curtain" want or already have joined.

None of this will make the slightest difference to the thinking in the US for one simple reason....they have NEVER had a war fought on its own soil (a civil war does not count!). I have always supected that the lack of flattened cities and millions of dead civilians is behind a lot of the US's enthusiasm for guns and war as a solution to problems rather than cooperation.

There's also a thing called world history, you find out about it in books and strangely enough its not all US based . Throughout history nations have amalgamated, markets consolidated etc etc. A European, American and Asian economic block are all inevitable and so is a single unified world. But it will occur either by stealth or cooperation. Only by cooperation will it occur in the hands of the people. Fight the inevitable and it will occur by stealth with all power in the hands of a few.

The constituition is the law of the land just so long as it is enforced, all it takes is a rogue party and a rogue president to start unraveling it until it becomes as the current rogue president has called it..."a goddamned piece of paper."


Besides that no one has yet explained why a north American union would be a bad thing... personally I am in favor of one world.... nationalism will be the death of us all.



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The European Union has been a good thing for Europe.
Its kept the peace and there hasn't been a major war in Europe since World War II.

We have to remember that the European Union became a Union in 1992, its still very young. We are slowly starting to understand our place in the World and the EU is starting to become productive in internationl affairs.

Given the history of the American Government's secrecy about this event and their penchant for ulterior motives I do not trust them at all. What is their real motive? What unintended consequences will this proposed merger have? World Peace, oh really How did NAFTA work out for the average citizen? The real beneficiary of this merger will be big business and the lackey politicians who do their bidding. The average citizen will suffer and be called unpatriotic at the same time as the inequities of income distribution continue to widen. Who benefits, the wealthy. At whose expense? You can figure that out. The military -industrial-political apparatus is so arrogant they don't even care what the average citizen wants.

Who the heck came up with "The Amero"? Why not the Canuro? Or the Canoonie? How about the "CanAmMe"? I guess there are no Canadians on the board in the Illuminati...

Truthfully I heard something about it on CNN about maybe two weeks back. This is something I want to read up on today but have to go out for a while. But once I'm back I will definalty read up on this. I'm am not in support of this NAU.

Originally posted by malcr



None of this will make the slightest difference to the thinking in the US for one simple reason....they have NEVER had a war fought on its own soil (a civil war does not count!). I have always supected that the lack of flattened cities and millions of dead civilians is behind a lot of the US's enthusiasm for guns and war as a solution to problems rather than cooperation.

That statement is not completely true. Battles were fought on U.S. soil during WW2 as well as the the wars in the early US history.

Originally posted by IronDogg
Who the heck came up with "The Amero"? Why not the Canuro? Or the Canoonie? How about the "CanAmMe"?

I think its the Amero because it is for the North American Continent.

My thought on this whole thing, after reading the thread is, will it be good or bad for the people of the countries involved? I can only speculate for the countries that I am not a citizen of. In my opinion it will be bad for the people of the U.S. Because there is such a large gap in the exchange rate of the currency between the Mexican Peso, and the dollars from both the other countries. So what I see happening is everything in the other two countries starts costing more. Which means the quality of life for everyone in the northers two countries goes down. So if this is to actually happen, the way I see it is you must ask, who will benefit from it? They will be the ones doing all the pushing for it.

I'm a Norwegian, I live in Europe/Scandinavia. And there's NO WAY in hell we would want the euro here. Were contempt with our Kroner. (Crowns)

I've also lived in America for 20 years, and I can't say that I like the idea of the proposed change in currency and borders. The Constitution is more then any European could understand. This is the very road, house, people America is made out of. Changing it or abolishing it is about un-American as baking apple pie with Ramon-Noodles. It can't be done.

This is just ridiculous beyond comprehension. The flood of Mexicans into America and Canada will increase in crime, as the druglords won't have borders to worry about. I mean, can't some people see what's happening here and world wide? Our sovereignty is dying and our countries becoming states of one big country.

Originally posted by Frontkjemper

I mean, can't some people see what's happening here and world wide? Our sovereignty is dying and our countries becoming states of one big country.

This part of what you said I think is very true. Now like I said above, you must ask who will benefit from that happening? Is that what the politicians want? I know some do, that is what is being called a globalist. I am not sure it the politichiens. It is the big business money that keeps them in office, and they know that and they often do there bidding.