Physical Immortality

I see alot of talk about being immortal and no acual talk of how this is accomplished at all. so how about we skip the 'show me proof' stuff and you simply tell us what information you have on the subject? is it like those people who can pull themselves back together atom by atom? or is it more like those rare people that can literaly do whatever they believe they can do? anyone else here heard of that kid they dropped out of planes until they thought they finaly killed him by accident and he pulled himself back together?

Interesting. Is this related to some Ascended Master/Theosophy-type Rosicrucianism stuff?

How about Comte St. Germain? Some great external links at the bottom of that article.

Here's another link not included at the External Links from the Wikipedia article-

www.crystalinks.com...

Another of those Fortean-type fascinating tales that have intrigued me over the years.

Originally posted by Shadoww
erm where is the snap judgement???
is asking for proof a snap Judgement?
Is Calling something that has no proof BS rude?
It isnt to much to ask.
I wouildnt expect anyone to believe anything i said without me backing it up with proof.
We are meant to be Skeptical here on ATS and to demand proof.
You have proven Zip Nada..
Its you who should watch what they are posting.
Posting BS you have read without any proof tends to make people question or dismiss you out of hand.
Prove me wrong.
Until then as far as im concerned your thread is pure unadulterated BS.

All you know amounts to zilch doesnt it??

LoL Thats quite a shopping list, and you don't think you are being rude?

Dude you have problems,

This thread as just started and needless to say you know nothing of this subject, if you think this is BS, feel free, and move along, (why try thread crapping if you don't have anything intelligent to say?) if you want to ask me questions on this subject then fine, if I see your manner as abusive then I will not waste my time with a reply, just so you can continue to play your games (only a fool argues with a fool) you can believe want,

I'll do this only once,

is asking for proof a snap Judgement?
Yes it is a snap judgement, (you seem to coming to the conclusion that this is BS based on what?)

Is Calling something that has no proof BS rude?
Yes, calling something that has no proof BS rude (Why should it be labeled BS just because it doesn't fit your understanding, what make you fit to label this anything? again see above,)

It isnt to much to ask.

Yes it is much to ask. (but again you have no understanding of this situation)

I wouildnt expect anyone to believe anything i said without me backing it up with proof.

Thats fine,

We are meant to be Skeptical here on ATS and to demand proof

I don't mind sceptical at all, but please keep this to intelligent questions, instead of your own bias backed agenda, and you can demand all you like,
I'm not here to jump through your hoops, take it or leave it, if you don't like it don't post here,

You have proven Zip Nada..

But no matter what I may post in the future of this thread, you would no doubt say it's fake

Its you who should watch what they are posting.
Ha, now that is what BS looks like lol,

Posting BS you have read without any proof tends to make people question or dismiss you out of hand.

This is not BS, I've not read this, feel free to ask questions, and feel free to dismiss this

Prove me wrong.

No, you prove me wrong

Until then as far as im concerned your thread is pure unadulterated BS.

So why post?,

Originally posted by HuntaXX
I see alot of talk about being immortal and no acual talk of how this is accomplished at all. so how about we skip the 'show me proof' stuff and you simply tell us what information you have on the subject? is it like those people who can pull themselves back together atom by atom? or is it more like those rare people that can literaly do whatever they believe they can do? anyone else here heard of that kid they dropped out of planes until they thought they finaly killed him by accident and he pulled himself back together?

I will disscus this as things progress,

Originally posted by yeahright
Interesting. Is this related to some Ascended Master/Theosophy-type Rosicrucianism stuff?

No

Originally posted by yeahright
How about Comte St. Germain? Some great external links at the bottom of that article.

I heard that hes true, but know little about him,

Originally posted by whargoul
Ok there are good ones and bad ones...

It's political

Originally posted by whargoul
Ok so you have to be good...

Where did the bad ones come from? After your immortal (paying off all your old negative karma), can you then go back to old immoral ways?

You have to get ridd of all your old negative karma,
once you do that thought doesn't mean you can't re-offend,

You could become immoral, (but it would be harder to retain that state)
but don't get me wrong there are some unpleasant people, it's more a type of hubris

ive only read a third of the thread, and its already the dogma and propaganda coming from the thread maker, is just boring. ill continue reading, and edit my post if necessary.
all that kharma stuff is trash. just a belief created to control people. let me finish reading the thread, then post back

double post. this thread is trash. you make a thread claiming to know this and that, and all you have said is cliche bull. this is another stereotypical thread created by some over sensitive new ager who just read an interesting book, and probably chatted with some folks on aol, and now believes he can come in here and make a thread about the subject of immortality, while being patronizing to all o us. ridiculous.
i personally dont believe you. when i have knowledge to spread, i spread it. i dont make people jump through hoops, and answer responses with one or two word replies.
you speak of ridding yourself of negative kharma in order to achieve immortality, but you dont have a reason as to why. you dont know why. because its not the only way to reach immortality. kharma falls into the realm of good and bad, and good and bad are two completely subjective terms. there is no universal good or bad. but if im wrong, then tell me why i must rid myself of negative kharma in order to achieve physical immortality, and or psychic abilities. please enlighten me.
this is ridiculous. being the creators that we are. there is no one way to achieve anything. there is always a choice, and you can make it. create your own rituals, create your own religion, and empower them with emotion, belief, and will, and you can grab your greatest desires and make them a reality.
this thread is a waste. the original thread maker is probably just pulling the chains of those who are even entertaining this thread, and are actually somewhat curious to hear what he has to say.


[edit on 24-4-2007 by jimmy1200]

Dang Jimmy. Who whizzed in your cornflakes this morning?

Give the guy a chance. I'll admit to being curious as to what he has to share. If he stalls out, or it becomes too ridiculous, we can move on to something else.

Meanwhile, I'll patiently await further info. If there's any to be had.

the truth is always simple . simplify please

You people are asking for proof that CANNOT be given. Stop asking.

This is meant for the discussion of the possibility of such people, not whether or not your dogmatic beliefs will allow you to agree with the OP.

Open your heart and mind, maybe you'll see life for what it truly is: vibrating energy and not materiality.

bs

Originally posted by biggie smalls
This is meant for the discussion of the possibility of such people, not whether or not your dogmatic beliefs will allow you to agree with the OP.

Well, that certainly isn't the purpose of the thread according to the OP. Doesn't say anything about the "possibility of such people existing".

He (assuming male) claims to know not only that it's absolutely real, but will divulge everything except the names of the "good ones". Including how to achieve physical immortality.

So that's the purpose, as the OP laid it out. Not the discussion of the possibility, but the nuts and bolts reality.

And we're waiting.

I would find this topic interesting, but can't for all of the condescending arrogance from the author. I mean, come on! How many times can you tell us that it will come out and to be patient before the BS flags start waving? You talk about kharma, yet you lob fireballs of patronizing drivel at people asking for proof. Please get to the point and lose the attitude.

Yeah, we are waiting lol...
You will wait for eternity to get facts from that kid..
He has given nothing, i cant understand why he has even several flags , unless he has multiple characters lol..
If you want me to prove you wrong, give me some evidence apart from the verbal cack you are spouting...
You aint got a scooby do pal..
And your punching much to far above your weight in taking me on..
Until you come up with proof or even good theoretical argument, i will continue to say you are full of BS.
You have obviously been watching too much Highlander..

Are the good ones safeon holy ground?
Is jacob Kell one of the baddies..
If you only get your neck partly cut, like the Kurgen will it heal up??
Is sean connery really the oldest man in Scotland?
Why does connor mccloud get older in each film?

these are very important questions on immortality i want answering..
One iota of evidence is nothing to ask for..
The other BS in saying blah blah blah..you know nothing of what you talk about..
If i know nothing i know more than you, because so far you have given less than nothing

skunkworks

[edit on 24-4-2007 by Shadoww]

Well, it depends on your idea of thought, if one were to say three hundred thousand years old, only imortals would know.So if to be immortal is to be timelessness in a given statue of existance then it is most plausible idea.

Look at other existances living more to the spiritual side of living they would have the ingrediants to breach contracts on certain levels of living.Its possible to breach existance with what is known in a given circumference of standing.

I know alot of you all want proof of something like this, but you gotta understand
it's not that simple. My father is what I would consider, very wise & very spiritual. I understand exactly what Harper means.


I do not know if it's true, but I think it's quite possible.

Ohh...& for the record Harper, I never said I didn't believe in immortality. I said I don't believe in physical immortality. They're very different.

I think living and dying, but remembering your past lives is true immortality.
That's if we have past lives. I would like to think so though, but the fact is I do not know. I can't remember my past lives, so I do not know. How am I to know if you're just delusional & remebering things that never happened?
How am I to know that we're in some form of alien/spiritual experiment where everything we think we know is just that...a thought?

Who am I to know this? Who are you to tell me that this is so?
That's how I think...and that's why it's hard for me to fully believe in any one thing.

There is a guy named Alex Chiu who sells these magnets you wear on your little finger and feet while you sleep and they are supposed to reverse the aging process. I am wondering if the way to acheive this state requires more than a mindset but some kind of physical theraputic work.

Looked at this way: If everything that vibrates in the universe is really an illusion, and the only real and true thing is "LOVE" or whatever you wish to call it, and it has no vibration, it just IS, then what would be the point of keeping an illusory vibratory vehicle going on and on and on??

Another point, this ascension process the earth is allegedly going through at this time is supposed to take us to a higher dimension and our bodies will go through a change as well-are you alluding to this or what??

Originally posted by jimmy1200
ive only read a third of the thread, and its already the dogma and propaganda coming from the thread maker, is just boring. ill continue reading, and edit my post if necessary.
all that kharma stuff is trash. just a belief created to control people. let me finish reading the thread, then post back

No Dogma or propaganda, if you find it boring don't read it,
Karma is not trash but that just goes to show how much you know,
and how is it controlling people?

With Karma you get what you give, so are you saying you control yourself? lol

Hello harper,

I have a few questions,

How old are you, you are immortal right?

So do you look young for your age?
Do you have wrinkles?

Does being immortal mean you stay young forever until you die, or do you age to 60 or so and stay like that?

How did you find out about immortality?

Why are you telling us?

I am skeptical, but open minded, I would love to be immortal and live hundred of years, to see the world, help people etc. And then die later.

Originally posted by jimmy1200
double post. this thread is trash. you make a thread claiming to know this and that, and all you have said is cliche bull. this is another stereotypical thread created by some over sensitive new ager who just read an interesting book, and probably chatted with some folks on aol, and now believes he can come in here and make a thread about the subject of immortality, while being patronizing to all o us. ridiculous.
i personally dont believe you. when i have knowledge to spread, i spread it. i dont make people jump through hoops, and answer responses with one or two word replies.
you speak of ridding yourself of negative kharma in order to achieve immortality, but you dont have a reason as to why. you dont know why. because its not the only way to reach immortality. kharma falls into the realm of good and bad, and good and bad are two completely subjective terms. there is no universal good or bad. but if im wrong, then tell me why i must rid myself of negative kharma in order to achieve physical immortality, and or psychic abilities. please enlighten me.
this is ridiculous. being the creators that we are. there is no one way to achieve anything. there is always a choice, and you can make it. create your own rituals, create your own religion, and empower them with emotion, belief, and will, and you can grab your greatest desires and make them a reality.
this thread is a waste. the original thread maker is probably just pulling the chains of those who are even entertaining this thread, and are actually somewhat curious to hear what he has to say.


[edit on 24-4-2007 by jimmy1200]

Thats just totally unfounded bile, okay lets straighten out a few fact quickly

I'm no "new ager" (thanks)

I've not just read an "interesting book'

I've never "chatted with some folks on aol" or anyother IM system about this subject ever,

I've never tried to be "patronizing" at all, (jokey maybe) sorry you feel that way,

"i personally dont believe you"

You are free to believe in what you like

"when i have knowledge to spread, i spread it."

What do you think I'm doing here?

"i dont make people jump through hoops"

You saying I am?, What hoops are these?, is it because I'm not moving fast enough for you, you want all the info on this now?, it doesn't work that way

"and answer responses with one or two word replies." outside me posting on the hit and run, There is a reason

"you speak of ridding yourself of negative kharma in order to achieve immortality, but you dont have a reason as to why. you dont know why. because its not the only way to reach immortality"

There are many ways to reach immortality, (please read my posts)
ALL are depenant on Karma, And how can I not know why?? lol
because while you carry negative Karma your state of energy is lower,
(and some other stuff )

"there is no universal good or bad"

Ho yes there is, and a Heaven and a Hell, you do the math on this

"and or psychic abilities"
They come with the package as standard

"being the creators that we are. there is no one way to achieve anything."

Never said there was, (again read my post)but you don't put out a fire by throwing petrol on to it do you?, ie there are always Right ways and Wrong ways, one will get you there, the other won't

"there is always a choice, and you can make it"

Again never said there wasn't

"create your own rituals, create your own religion, and empower them with emotion, belief, and will, and you can grab your greatest desires and make them a reality"

Man that sounds an awfull lot like how ritual magic works, doesn't it,
is that what your in to?, that would explain alot,


"this thread is a waste. the original thread maker is probably just pulling the chains of those who are even entertaining this thread, and are actually somewhat curious to hear what he has to say."

Sorry but no, but I'm guessing you hope it is