What would a full scale Russian invasion look like?, page 1
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Topic started on 18-4-2007 @ 08:27 PM by BlueRidge
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In reality was there anyway that Russia could have ever taken the U.S.A? If we discounted nukes ..ok...maybe one or 10....what would be the most likely invasion path or paths. I'm interested in your theories. I hope you enjoyed the vids!

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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 05:54 AM by UnD3rg0uND
Hey everyone, I've had an account for awhile this is my first post I usually just troll because I am busy. A couple years back I was looking into possible first strike capabilities by America's enemies. I found some interesting information while looking that said during the cold war if the USSR was going to pre-emptively strike us it would be a High Altitude Nuclear Blast over Omaha, NE. The resulting EMP travels outwardly to the horizon (essentially most of the continental US) frying any non hardened electrical componets in it's path.

I found this very interesting as I live in one of the nearby states. I approached my dad who was a high placed official for an electricity company. He had never heard of this scenario, but was intrigued. The next day he asked the head of the companies security department, a former officer of naval intelligence and naval advanced research, about it. My dad told me 1-that the guy was surprised I asked about this, 2-It was known with almost certainty that this would have been a first strike option, no matter if it was a sneak attack or retaliation.

The former officer said that the military command and control infrastructure was hardened during the 70's to withstand an EMP like this one, but that all consumer and public electronics would be fried even to this day. He also said even people in omaha would not know there had just been a nuclear blast and that there would be little fallout from such a blast due to atmospheric conditions at that altitude. He said this threat is still very very real. He also said it would not necessarily require an ICBM or even long range missle. I do not remember exact figures for the altitude but I want to say it was around 230 miles up. He elaborated theorhetically one could be fired off a ship in Gulf of Mexico ( or remeber cuban missle crisis) or one of our neighboring countries.

Can you imagine the mayhem that would follow this? almost wouldn't need another wave or attack just let us kill each other in the streets as we will have no ATS available to tell us what's really happening. Just my two cents, rip away.


reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 12:41 PM by BlueRidge
Originally posted by Alucard666000
Well in my opion if Russia was to mount and attack on the US mainland you might very well have a World in Conflict/Red Dawn style attack, or you could just the same not and instead have them use nukes on millitary bases and then follow it up with a full scale invasion form eaither the borders or the coasts, there really are alot of possiable ways they could come at the US, my guess is that it will depend on if the use nukes and hit hard and fast before there can be a retaloitory strike on them, I could see them comeing in form Canada and maybe Mexico but if what people have been saying bout China being down there is true then no, Canada and the coasts would be the most likely for a ground invasion/amphiois assalut

As for the High Altitude Nuclear Blast over Omaha Neb senerio that UnD3rg0uND talked about earliyier it would efficatively deal a massive blow to the majority of the continaents communications, powersupply and so forth, do serieus damgage to Offeut AFB there in Omaha were Global Command is at and hammper the fact that Offeut i ware they conrtol most of the missile sites in Neb and Iowa form that base, i know bout this HANB over Omaha senoerio first hand, since living near the base its something alot of folks there worry bout happening



Lets say the there was a high altitude E.M.P nuclear or maybe a surprise non nuclear one also...this would disable 99% of all electronics in the USA. This means no electronic communication other than hardened cold war era radios/computers to coordinate a defense. Since most of our troops are overseas at the moment we are extremely vulnerable. Guerrilla warfare style of fighting would only slow down the advance and the take over of various facilities. Any military person will tell you the old adage of "divide and conquer". This would hold true to groups that cannot fight as one coordinated force due to the lack of communication. If you have China and Russia cooperating as one......thats scary....


reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 01:00 PM by BlueRidge
Originally posted by Kacen
Oh wow a total rip off of Command & Conquer Red Alert (which sucked in my opinion anyway). Whats with all the cold war alternate history stories/games anyway? Its kinda annoying.

But besides the point this game looks like it'll kill my computer, hell it would make it explode the moment I try to run the program. My computer sucks.

Oh and this entire scenario is complete bull.



Ok...let's say its the year 2012. The United States has been in a 5 year occupation of Iran + 9 years in Iraq after an extensive air war with the use of bunker busting nukes to destroy Iran's nuclear weapons program. The air war was not as successful as hoped and a ground war became a necessity to change destroy the program and change the leadership. Russia and China take notice of what some would call "American Imperialism" after the Iraq invasion and begin to rapidly modernize their military through oil/gas money and trade dollars.

A new crisis emerges as Pakistani and Egyptian governments are overthrown by Islamic extremist. The U.S. being stretched to the breaking point acts by invading both countries.

China in response to the America's invasions detonates a low earth orbiting E.M.P satellite over Kansas City, Kansas causing the destructions of 99% of all electronics and blinding or destroying American/allied satellites......America is blind and ready for the taking with no clue of who is attacking.......This is where you pick up..............



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