Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Basically, he will come under the guise of protecting us. He will use all of the child abductions as an excuse to tag people and track them. He will be a superior intellect who will convince most, if not all that his plan is the only one that will work. I have said it repeatedly, beware of the man who has all of the answers. For he will be the one that you should fear.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Here's what I would consider a example of christian beliefs spreading fear.Fear not just of a nwo, but of superior intelligence.If any man/women could(on a global scale);

1-protect us
2-stop child abductions
3-has the only plan that works-maybe a plan to stop global warming for example

Not a bad resume in my opinion.Certainly would be accomplishing more than current leaders.But I am supposed to fear a man/women who has superior intelligence,and the ability to do 1-2-3 from above.

Madness I say!

Originally posted by FreeSpeaker

Here's what I would consider a example of christian beliefs spreading fear.Fear not just of a nwo, but of superior intelligence.If any man/women could(on a global scale);

1-protect us
2-stop child abductions
3-has the only plan that works-maybe a plan to stop global warming for example

Not a bad resume in my opinion.Certainly would be accomplishing more than current leaders.But I am supposed to fear a man/women who has superior intelligence,and the ability to do 1-2-3 from above.

Madness I say!

Well, firstly, you haven't been here long enough to know what I am about to affiliate me with any group. While I am indeed Christian, I am by no means orthodox Christian. I am sure there are some self-proclaimed Christians on here who loath me. And I say that in all truthfulness.

Secondly, if you think that placing a tracking device under everyone's skin is a "cool idea" then you are sadly mistaken. I promise you upon all that is holy, they will never inject anything into me. I promise you that.

Thirdly, "protect us" at what cost? At the cost of living under constant surveillance? My, friend, you can have it. I don't want it. Thank you very much though.

As far as global warming is concerned, there is nothing that any living human being can do to stop what Mother Earth is about to do. Any man who thinks he can is an outright certifiable madman.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

[edit on 17-4-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well, firstly, you haven't been here long enough to know what I am about to affiliate me with any group. While I am indeed Christian, I am by no means orthodox Christian. I am sure there are some self-proclaimed Christians on here who loath me. And I say that in all truthfulness.

I wasn't trying to affliate you with any group or assume your beliefs.I was using your quote,which I believe is a example of either intentionally or unitentially spreading fear.Fear someone of superior intelligence?I can't imagine where we'd be if we never listend to our intellectual betters.I don't believe you were personally trying to spread fear,but might have unitentionally done just that.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Secondly, if you think that placing a tracking device under everyone's skin is a "cool idea" then you are sadly mistaken. I promise you upon all that is holy, they will never inject anything into me. I promise you that.

I'm still pondering the implants so I wont debate it right now.But I will not reject it out of hand because a biblical interpretation says its the mark of the beast.I believe people said the same thing about the tattoo's the nazis used on the jews at the time,and I do believe hearing Hitler called the anti-christ on occasion.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Thirdly, "protect us" at what cost? At the cost of living under constant surveillance? My, friend, you can have it. I don't want it. Thank you very much though.

We can't debate what a nwo will cost in freedoms until its happening or happend,and we're nowhere near that point.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
As far as global warming is concerned, there is nothing that any living human being can do to stop what Mother Earth is about to do. Any man who thinks he can is an outright certifiable madman.

So we should what?Not try?Just lay down and die.As I said I'm not christian so I can't be content waiting for Jesus to return and save us,I believe mankind must save itself.

Apologies if I offended.

FreeSpeaker, you didn't offend me. I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. Of course, I don't intentionally spread fear, and I have told people repeatedly that when all is said and done, I think things will be okay. However, I do have concern about this globalization process that the world is entering. I also fear the possibility that if globalism is instated that it will leave the doors wide open a one world dictator, or as some call him, the "anti-Christ."

As far as micro chipping is concerned, for me, it's not even a matter that is up for debate. I refuse to do it.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
FreeSpeaker, you didn't offend me. I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. Of course, I don't intentionally spread fear, and I have told people repeatedly that when all is said and done, I think things will be okay.

Glad I didn't offend.

Its so easy to have your words misused, and darn infuriating.

Thats part of my problem when it comes to christians using scripture to put down any kind of globalization effort.Whether its true or not,some people will believe whatever they hear and assume the worst.Doesn't matter if it was unintentionally done,the damage is already done.I too have reservations about the potential outcome of globalization,its only responsible to question and be concerned about something that will effect everyone on this world.

But like you,I'm optomistic about the future.

Either humankind will reach its first true golden age,or we will all be dead from global warming.

Well, things are not as bleak as many seem to want to believe. Will there be some hard times? Certainly. However, we have to stay positive and know within that things will be as they are supposed to be when all is said and done. As long as we understand that, then fear is worthless.

Well the Bible prophesises about this NWO, and the Bible is correct up to this point. So I don't think Christians are using it to gain followers, they just don't want to see other people fall into the hands of the devil. It's not like Christians are making up this bogus theory to gain followers, the NWO and the end time events have been apart of the Christian religion forever.

Originally posted by FreeSpeaker
Are some christian groups using fear of the new world order to recrute new people and increase religious thought?

Does all christainity oppose a nwo becuase the laws put in place would conflict with its views and beliefs.

Maybe

Look a New World Order means power is changing hands. Those in power have historically abused power. So if you are not the one in power, wouldn't you be wary of those who were in power?

Likewise, those in power would likely be wary of those who were not in power but of those who would be in power.

We don't trust them, they don't trust us.