are humans born with knowledge???

animals are born with instinct and some humans claim to experience past life regression...

can one argue that humans are born with knowledge

let's talk...

no one desires to talk

Plato and Pythagoras would certainly say that we are.

Pre-existence and knowledge

Originally posted by they see ALL
animals are born with instinct and some humans claim to experience past life regression...

can one argue that humans are born with knowledge

let's talk...

They are born with the internal holographic inserts, and after puberty lifes design to digest physical experiences.

i am interested in the fact that we, humans, are not capable of realizing the knowledge that we are born with (or are we???)...

for example, most of us would agree that we are born with a clean slate (in other words, we are born with nothing, no memory or knowledge at all)...

during our lives, we are socialized (we need this key ingredient in order to learn language / norms / values / etc)...

so, i guess what i am trying to say is, at what point does the knowledge we are born with get destroyed (as humans are not capable of knowing this information)???

see what i am asking???

maybe the knowledge is never destroyed, but we just keep it locked away...

What knowledge are we talking about ?
Is this some sort of universal understanding of everything or just knowledge to walk and burp ?

I know we are not born with knowledge to do anything, we must be taught that, as well as all mamals.

Originally posted by R3KR
What knowledge are we talking about ?
Is this some sort of universal understanding of everything or just knowledge to walk and burp ?

knowledge to walk and burp can be a part of this knowledge that i am speaking of...

the knowledge i am talking about is just that, knowledge...

whatever comes to your mind when i say "knowledge" is what i am talking about

I know we are not born with knowledge to do anything, we must be taught that, as well as all mamals.

yes, through socialization...

If humans were born with knowledge of past life experiences, we would have no
drive to live. Just say you suddenly woke up one day and realized you have to start a whole new life, that you've lost your family, your friends and that the old you has died. That would destroy you're motivation to survive (even though you would be a baby), and in doing that, you would most probably die. So no, I don't think humans are born with knowledge.

Are humans born with knowledge? / instinct ? I would have to say yes. Just look at underwater birth. Babies are born knowing how to swim.
Here is a interesting but not surprising article I found.
"Babies are born ready to learn any language. They can even perceive certain speech sounds in world languages that adults can't discern. But by the end of the first year of life, this universal language readiness gets pruned away, as their brain homes in on its native tongue, which they've been overhearing since they were in the womb."

I'd have to say yes.Look at Einstien,DaVinci,Bethoven and such.I believe they were born with a gift.The gift of knowledge.

I think any living thing is born with pre images or some understanding of what is going on.

How do insects, animals, etc understand what they need to do before they are taught to do it. There has to be something there.

Can't remember who wrote it up I have no links, some research was done in the reactions of infants too things like fires and snakes. From what I can recall the study showed that children who were too young to have life experience of these things reacted instinctively to this kind of stimulus.

Rupert Sheldrake might have done some work on it check him out.

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[edit on 26-3-2007 by carslake]

Originally posted by MAD Hatt3r
If humans were born with knowledge of past life experiences, we would have no
drive to live. Just say you suddenly woke up one day and realized you have to start a whole new life, that you've lost your family, your friends and that the old you has died. That would destroy you're motivation to survive (even though you would be a baby), and in doing that, you would most probably die. So no, I don't think humans are born with knowledge.

that's depressing...

yeah i think we're talking more about instinct, natural survival instinct rather than knowledge. when a foal is born, it will stand up almost as soon as it is out of its mothers womb.. it's not taught to do that, but it instinctively knows how to stand up, because i guess its genetic code tells it to.. cos back in the wild, they wouldn't be able to stay lying down for long.

same for humans, i guess but we learn slower, i think we would stand up ourselves without being taught to do so.. (i doubt this has ever been experimented cos it would be blatant cruelty to deny a child any human interaction).

(and same for insects, leafer, its the instinct rather than actual knowledge, i doubt they go through a thought process to arrive at the decision to fly etc.)

the "knowledge" of how to swim, once again is instinct. if you throw a baby into a swimming pool, it'll keep itself alive, probably by being more buoyant than an older child, and simply because it has to. like our lungs will naturally try to gulp in air if we hold our breath for long enough- its not that the lungs have knowledge, but they will naturally do something to keep us alive.

i'm not sure about whether we have anything from a past life, its simply generations of breeding characteristics through the genetics that tells you what to do. i dont think people like einstein were born with knowledge, they just had a capacity to take in knowledge from a much younger age, much quicker, and much more complex information than you and i could. the gift is the capacity to learn, not actual knowledge. and the ability to think independently once they have this knowledge, and arrive at new outcomes and therefore make discoveries which to everyone else are baffling.

of course, i might be wrong...

Originally posted by purplecoral
i dont think people like einstein were born with knowledge, they just had a capacity to take in knowledge from a much younger age, much quicker, and much more complex information than you and i could.

that sounds about right...

no one is born smart...

but we may be born with knowledge...

I always wondered what would happen if you put a baby in isolation and brought it up with only language skills and asked it questions about God or creation etc.

I think it was in a book or something. Or I made it up.

How much do we know at birth... a fine question and one that is pretty hard to answer.

Originally posted by Dulcimer
I always wondered what would happen if you put a baby in isolation and brought it up with only language skills and asked it questions about God or creation etc.

me too...

How much do we know at birth... a fine question and one that is pretty hard to answer.

thanks...




[edit on 26-3-2007 by they see ALL]

Well, ....

Does it take knowledge to learn from birth? ... does it take intelligence to form the proper categories... would you not also think that it takes some sort of intelligence to model/pattern a lesser intelligence.. (because in my opinion adults are less intelligent than children.) ..

As noted in a post above:

We are born with instincts, rooting swimming etc. But that is behavior as opposed to knowledge

Given the In utero development of the brain, Im not sure we would have any memories beyond the point that experience. Even those memories are beyond all of us.

Since it forms in utero, our brain begins as a blank slate IMHO

Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
Does it take knowledge to learn from birth? ... does it take intelligence to form the proper categories... would you not also think that it takes some sort of intelligence to model/pattern a lesser intelligence.. (because in my opinion adults are less intelligent than children.) ..

so...

is your answer yes???