Hi exilluminati treasure

Hi!

@Ziba: I have some Questions at you and I hope you can answer, but let's see:

1. How many different kinds of angels are there? What's the difference between them, what's the difference in their appearence. Does the appearence change if one becomes evil? Are Aliens angels?Are angels able to shapeshift? In which ways are they able to communicate with mankind? Which possibilities do they have to somehow materialize on earth (by flying?, by transdimensional gates?, how did they descend in the times of Noah? etc).

2. What do you know about nimrod (the mighty hunter from the bible)? Please tell me everything you know about that person. How did his life look like?

3. How did the world look like, before the flood?

4. Has there ever been sth. like a preadamic race, that lived on earth (maybe angels)? Or was earth just a few days old, when adam was created?

5. Is there sth. like a illuminati-bloodline? If yes, from whom does it originate?

6. Who is typhoon?

7. Why does your avatar look evil like (little bit like the guys in dragonball z), when you say you are a good angel?

[edit on 18-4-2008 by Kaleon]

[edit on 18-4-2008 by Kaleon]

Come on!
Please give some answers.

Originally posted by thestatue
i dont know how to explain this in such a small simple statement but hello i am Ziba one of Gods Angels 21 years ago followers of the demon typhon my fallen identity used different magicks to resurrect him and silence me they created a body to put him in planned to completely tranconfigure him into the physical world the illuminati stopped them and help typhon back from doing so....years later a group of christians weakened him and he was destroyed and now for the last 5 years i have been here passing on what i know from the illuminati so i finally come here to offer to talk to anyone questions anything just ask!

Calling yourself an angel implies perfection and your grammar is far from perfect. my grammar isn't perfect either but your no angel


I only had to read your first post to see your just seeking attention. i do hope you spend that energy learning a useful skill instead

1. How many different kinds of angels are there?
this depends on what you mean.....
What's the difference between them, what's the difference in their appearence.
Does the appearence change if one becomes evil?yes when an angel falls it changes dramatically
Are Aliens angels?well uh not exactly humans have confused angelic ships or artifacts for alien artifacts ....demons too
Are angels able to shapeshift?certain types
In which ways are they able to communicate with mankind?emotionally,telepathic,muse-like,slight force,full physical
Which possibilities do they have to somehow materialize on earth (by flying?, by transdimensional gates?, how did they descend in the times of Noah? etc).
well angels are here on earth there isnt really another world out there its just moving faster so we sometimes become more human looking and slow down

2. What do you know about nimrod (the mighty hunter from the bible)? Please tell me everything you know about that person. How did his life look like?well uh we angels are everywhere but i wasnt around him its like me asking you how is tom seleck in person?

3. How did the world look like, before the flood?bigger sharper rocks more trees

4. Has there ever been sth. like a preadamic race, that lived on earth (maybe angels)? Or was earth just a few days old, when adam was created?seven days....the sixth was man.....this is pretty literal

5. Is there sth. like a illuminati-bloodline? If yes, from whom does it originate?no....but there is an original consul that they base lineage

6. Who is typhoon? typhon one "o" is my fallen demonic self a different entity all together

7. Why does your avatar look evil like (little bit like the guys in dragonball z), when you say you are a good angel? you know how in the bible angels always gotta say do not be afraid thats why

I have a question. Why does your angel wear pink pants?

Ok, thank you so far, for answering. But some questions still remain.

to 1.
Concerning how many different kinds of angels there are. A want to know for example the difference between a cherub and a seraphim or an archangel? Are there angels who look a little bit reptilian like?
Is an archangel just a rank or a different type of angel.
Can you for example make some sense aut of the Ezekiel description of a cherub? What are these strange wheels?
What kind of Angel is Satan?
Why does the appearence of an angels change if he becomes evil, but the appearence of men doesn't change if they become evil.

"well uh not exactly humans have confused angelic ships or artifacts for alien artifacts ....demons too "

So angels need technologie too? Who are aliens if they are not angels?

"well angels are here on earth there isnt really another world out there its just moving faster so we sometimes become more human looking and slow down"

So angel move always so fast, that we can't see them? And if they slow down they become human like? This means they always have to move fast enough that no one can see them?

to 2.
"well uh we angels are everywhere but i wasnt around him its like me asking you how is tom seleck in person?"

Don't you think that nimrod was a very important person. And if you lived during the time during he lived, don't you think that not knowing sth. about him, is more like not knowing sth. about Caesar, Alexander the Great or Hitler in person, than tom seleck?
Even if you haven't been on earth this time, didn't you say angels get education in heaven?

to 3.
Ok my question was not very precise but besides the sharper rocks and the trees, I hope you can tell me for example sth. about, of which important empires the world these days consisted? Which technologies did they achive? Who are important persons of this time? For example was Cain (son of adam) a important person before the flood? Was he a ruler?

to 4.
I think so too at the moment, but haven't you ever heard about the theory that, after god created the heavens and the earth, the earth wasn't immediately waste and void, but became waste and void, after a preadamic race lived?

to 5.
A roman consul? What was so special about this person? What kind of lineage is this if it is not a bloodline?

to 6.
have you been typhon since your creation?

to 7.
Ok,this was a good one


[edit on 25-4-2008 by Kaleon]

to 1.
Concerning how many different kinds of angels there are. well they can be seperated in different ways there are currently 18 different angel-types then those under them follow with different elements,body compositions/appearance,wings,size, and weapon

I want to know for example the difference between a cherub and a seraphim or an archangel? size and wings mainly

Are there angels who look a little bit reptilian like?well yeah

Is an archangel just a rank or a different type of angel.type....we rank kinda like the military

Can you for example make some sense aut of the Ezekiel description of a cherub? What are these strange wheels?like i said angels have had technology...i will explain later why i can't say to much

What kind of Angel is Satan?He was a cherub.....
Why does the appearence of an angels change if he becomes evil, but the appearence of men doesn't change if they become evil. well actually the appearance of man has changed "flesh" is man's change....and also the sins of angels are different and just affect us completely

"well uh not exactly humans have confused angelic ships or artifacts for alien artifacts ....demons too "

So angels need technologies too? not need just simply have had

Who are aliens if they are not angels?nothing just either misunderstandings or demonic tricks


"well angels are here on earth there isnt really another world out there its just moving faster so we sometimes become more human looking and slow down"

So angel move always so fast, that we can't see them?yes

And if they slow down they become human like? no we gotta take human likeness

This means they always have to move fast enough that no one can see them?no we angels "move fast" its a relative term we yes just move fast not speed wise but our frequency we are normally on a higher vibration speed

to 2.
"well uh we angels are everywhere but i wasnt around him its like me asking you how is tom seleck in person?"

Don't you think that nimrod was a very important person. And if you lived during the time during he lived, don't you think that not knowing sth. about him, is more like not knowing sth. about Caesar, Alexander the Great or Hitler in person, than tom seleck?well you see i am not omnipresent and so i dont know what going on absolutely everywhere all the time i'm more of a local whats going on around me

Even if you haven't been on earth this time, didn't you say angels get education in heaven? we had education and yes we have a chance for like what would refreshers on everything that has happened but that would take time outta my time to do my job here dealing with demons and helping out my charges

to 3.
Ok my question was not very precise but besides the sharper rocks and the trees, I hope you can tell me for example sth. about, of which important empires the world these days consisted?not many actually there were very minor things going on
Which technologies did they achive?weapons wheels and such

Who are important persons of this time? For example was Cain (son of adam) a important person before the flood? Was he a ruler?Cain was leader of nod yeah

to 4.
I think so too at the moment, but haven't you ever heard about the theory that, after god created the heavens and the earth, the earth wasn't immediately waste and void, but became waste and void, after a preadamic race lived?yeah but i was there i can also dispell the lilith theory

to 5.
A roman consul? What was so special about this person? What kind of lineage is this if it is not a bloodline?well it was just the first group that decidd to form the illuminati

to 6.
have you been typhon since your creation?no i was born Ziba i fell and became typhon then he was imprisoned and then i gained power then did some awesome stuff his worshipers gather items and powerful people to bring him back and place him in a false human body and years later he was defeated by some very faithful men and then that leads to now

to 7.
Ok,this was a good one .......yeah there is a line in a movie that really paints a good picture its from the prophesy one wing dipped constanly in blood or something i forget

Thank you again for answering and again I have some further questions.

Conerning angels:

- If Satan is a cherub, why is he so often compared to a serpent in the bible? Does he have a reptilian/serpent-like appearence? If yes why do the Cherubim of the Ezekiel-description don't look serpentlike but mainly have the appearence of a man with four faces (one of an ox/lion/man/eagle)?

- because you said angels consist of different elements and compounds - are they created after some kind of module principle?

- How does a fight between immortal angels look like? Why do they need weapons? If mortals fight, you have won the fight if you have injured or killed your enemy. But how is a fight between immortals won?

- What do you think are demons? Fallen angels or spirits of dead nephilim?

- Which angels (I don't mean the names but the kind of angels: cherubim, seraphim, archangel or mixed?) are in the devine-council and how many?
How many (circa) of them are evil how many still servants of god?

- After the tower of babel event the nations became devided and every nation got a angel as some kind of ruler; How does their rulership look like?
How can they influence the nation wich belongs to them?

- Is a "Son of God" a special type of angel, a rank, or is every angel a son of God?

- I didn't really get your concept of aliens; So you think aliens are a demonic trick? What are this entities (which many call greys), with the big eyes and so on? Are they materialized demons?
And the UFO's - are they illusions, manmade or angelmade?

Conerning the antediluvian world and the flood:

- Have dinosaurs lived before the flood together with mankind? If yes why don't we find a lot of fossiled men or fossiled animals wich life today (modern animals like elephants, whales, lions etc.)? Ok there are some "out of place artifacts" but they are not many. Shouldn't we find more?

- Did the fallen angels create them (the dinosaurs) by genetic manipulation? Why are dinosaurs burried under solid rock (how did the flood cause this)?

- Had there been just a big flood or had there been earthquakes, vulcano- eruptions and other catastrophies, too.

- Where did so much water come from?

- what is the difference between a clean and an unclean animal? (When noah collected the animals for the ark, he should distinguish between them - why?)

Conerning lilith:

- You said you could dispell the lilith theory. Can you tell sth. about her?

- Where does her myth originate? Who was she? Why is she briefly mentioned in the bible? Is she a demoness? Is a female demon possible at all (Are there female angels by the way)?

- Why has she been deified? Is there a connection between godesses after the flood (Ishtar, Isis etc.) and the myth of lilith?

Conerning the illuminati:

- Can you tell sth. more about that consul and the history of the illuminati?

- Do you think by the way, that the "Insider" of the thread "revelations of an Insider" (not from this forum here) which has gained some fame in the internet, is a real insider?
If you don't know about it (and if you have the time - I would understand if you say its too long and you don't have the time) just google for it, it's easy to find.
Because of some things he says, I think he really is an insider. Of course I don't think he is right in many points he makes (for different reasons, I don't want to explain now - would just take too much time and writingspace), but I think he believes what he says and is not just a hoax.
What do you think about him, is he one of those people you would call illuminati? Why or Why not?

Conerning you^^:

Why do you keep your answers as short as possible and don't explain a lot?










[edit on 26-4-2008 by Kaleon]

Conerning angels:

- If Satan is a cherub, why is he so often compared to a serpent in the bible?
Does he have a reptilian/serpent-like appearence?
If yes why do the Cherubim of the Ezekiel-description don't look serpentlike but mainly have the appearence of a man with four faces (one of an ox/lion/man/eagle)? satan simply took the shape of a "serpent" it was actually closer to that of a dragon but you know how translations work


- because you said angels consist of different elements and compounds - are they created after some kind of module principle? well here i'll give you an example my skin is a green grey color and made of granite but not like the thing from the marvel universe more less like that of when you play at the beach and sand sticks to your skin

- How does a fight between immortal angels look like? depends on ones fighting style I.E....powerhouse....modest....hand-to-hand
Why do they need weapons?not everyone uses them but its for the same reason man uses them
If mortals fight, you have won the fight if you have injured or killed your enemy. But how is a fight between immortals won?imagine when your draining out a sink or a bath tube a whirl pool forms you hit the water sending a small wave towards the whirl pool it stutters then a bigger one and it goes away but comes back thats how we work as angels with humans the wave causes all the water to go down the drain......for now at least but when Armageddon happens that all changes ...... demons are half the same as angels and humans meaning they sustain a certain aount of damage and find it very hard to come back but sometimes remain unable to ever gain existence however they can be completely destroyed very few have been

- What do you think are demons? Fallen angels or spirits of dead nephilim? demons are fallen angels

- Which angels (I don't mean the names but the kind of angels: cherubim, seraphim, archangel or mixed?) are in the divine-council and how many?what do you mean?

How many (circa) of them are evil how many still servants of god?a third of the angels became demons

- After the tower of babel event the nations became divided and every nation got a angel as some kind of ruler; How does their ruler ship look like?not that different more or less they take up living somewhere as a guardian angel
How can they influence the nation which belongs to them? well they really dont it's up to local guardians

- Is a "Son of God" a special type of angel, a rank, or is every angel a son of God? you speaking of the suffix YHWH? just replace it with employee of the month

- I didn't really get your concept of aliens; So you think aliens are a demonic trick? What are this entities (which many call greys), with the big eyes and so on? Are they materialized demons?
And the UFO's - are they illusions, manmade or angelmade? okay deons simply look like greys thats where greys come from but half simple UFO sightings are angels

Conerning the antediluvian world and the flood:

- Have dinosaurs lived before the flood together with mankind? If yes why don't we find a lot of fossilized men or fossilized animals which life today (modern animals like elephants, whales, lions etc.)? Okay there are some "out of place artifacts" but they are not many. Shouldn't we find more? dinosaurs had different bone structures and are more durable

- Did the fallen angels create them (the dinosaurs) by genetic manipulation?no
Why are dinosaurs buried under solid rock (how did the flood cause this)?rapid movements of plates

- Had there been just a big flood or had there been earthquakes, volcano- eruptions and other catastrophes, too.yes

- Where did so much water come from?a water canopy and water from below the earth's crust

- what is the difference between a clean and an unclean animal? (When noah collected the animals for the ark, he should distinguish between them - why?)

Conerning lilith:

- You said you could dispell the lilith theory. Can you tell sth. about her?what is sth?

- Where does her myth originate? Who was she? Why is she briefly mentioned in the bible? Is she a demoness? Is a female demon possible at all (Are there female angels by the way)? she is a demoness she helped to construct her own story

- Why has she been deified? Is there a connection between godesses after the flood (Ishtar, Isis etc.) and the myth of lilith?because she as a demoness made man believe she was a goddess

Conerning the illuminati:

- Can you tell sth. more about that consul and the history of the illuminati?

- Do you think by the way, that the "Insider" of the thread "revelations of an Insider" (not from this forum here) which has gained some fame in the internet, is a real insider?
If you don't know about it (and if you have the time - I would understand if you say its too long and you don't have the time) just google for it, it's easy to find.
Because of some things he says, I think he really is an insider. Of course I don't think he is right in many points he makes (for different reasons, I don't want to explain now - would just take too much time and writingspace), but I think he believes what he says and is not just a hoax.
What do you think about him, is he one of those people you would call illuminati? Why or Why not? i would say half of what hes says could be truth

Conerning you^^:

Why do you keep your answers as short as possible and don't explain a lot?well why not?

Ok, thank you again, but I still don't know, what to make out of your answers. So here are more questions.


- If lilith is a female demon, and if demons are fallen angels, she had to be a female angel once, right? But why are all Angels in the bible described as being male?

- If demons are fallen angels, why did they ask Jesus to drive them into pigs? I thought angels have bodies, so fallen angels should have bodies, too.
So why do they ask for a host?

- The term "son of god" doesn't have the suffix YHWH in hebrew. I, of course, don't know a lot about hebrew, but the term "sons of god" seems to be written as b'nei elohim. And this I meant with the "divine council": www.thedivinecouncil.com...

- if the term "son of god" means something like "employee of the month", why is god reproaching them so harshly, so that he even prophecies their death (and by the way, these I meant with the evil angels in the "divine counsil" aka. "congregation of God")?

(Psalm 82)
A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of God; He judgeth among the gods.
How long will ye judge unjustly, And respect the persons of the wicked? Selah
Judge the poor and fatherless: Do justice to the afflicted and destitute.
Rescue the poor and needy: Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.
They know not, neither do they understand; They walk to and fro in darkness: All the foundations of the earth are shaken.
I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High.
Nevertheless ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes
Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations.

- How could you be restored from your fallen nature back into Ziba?

- And by the way. if you lived in ancient times, are you able to translate ancient scripture?

- Why if you say, dinosaurs had a more durable bonestructure compared to modern animals, are there fossils of feathers (archaeopteryx), fishbones, leaves of trees and even insects, which have been preserved? I don't think these things are more durable than the bones of modern animals.



PS.
sth. = somesthing: Sorry, I don't know myself why I always abbreviated it, I think I did it unconsciously.


[edit on 28-4-2008 by Kaleon]

[edit on 28-4-2008 by Kaleon]

- If lilith is a female demon, and if demons are fallen angels, she had to be a female angel once, right? But why are all Angels in the bible described as being male? because female angels dont do the same things male angels do so it's not note worthy

- If demons are fallen angels, why did they ask Jesus to drive them into pigs? I thought angels have bodies, so fallen angels should have bodies, too.
So why do they ask for a host? not all demons have bodies alot lost there bodies in wars and fights with angels or holy humans

- The term "son of god" doesn't have the suffix YHWH in hebrew. I, of course, don't know a lot about hebrew, but the term "sons of god" seems to be written as b'nei elohim. And this I meant with the "divine council": www.thedivinecouncil.com... sorry i misunderstood YHWH is a term that is giving to certain angels who are considered to be closer to God and are called sons now i say YHWH but its cause its the angel"s name followed by the name of God kind like a last name only no Mc or O'

- if the term "son of god" means something like "employee of the month", why is god reproaching them so harshly, so that he even prophecies their death (and by the way, these I meant with the evil angels in the "divine counsil" aka. "congregation of God")?uh im not sure what you mean

(Psalm 82)
A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of God; He judgeth among the gods.
How long will ye judge unjustly, And respect the persons of the wicked? Selah
Judge the poor and fatherless: Do justice to the afflicted and destitute.
Rescue the poor and needy: Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.
They know not, neither do they understand; They walk to and fro in darkness: All the foundations of the earth are shaken.
I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High.
Nevertheless ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes
Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations.

- How could you be restored from your fallen nature back into Ziba?well when a demon no longer is able to gain power and his mental srength weakens an angel can regain existence

- And by the way. if you lived in ancient times, are you able to translate ancient scripture? No i wish though

- Why if you say, dinosaurs had a more durable bonestructure compared to modern animals, are there fossils of feathers (archaeopteryx), fishbones, leaves of trees and even insects, which have been preserved? I don't think these things are more durable than the bones of modern animals. think of how hard it is to find modern animal bones there are vultures and such so the modern animals that still live even back then with dinosaurs would have the same fate untraceable



PS.
sth. = somesthing: Sorry, I don't know myself why I always abbreviated it, I think I did it unconsciously. its okay

... and again some questions:

- "because female angels dont do the same things male angels do so it's not note worthy" So whats their task mainly? cooking?

- If there are female angels, do angels have sex? are they able to procreate?
If not how could the angels get nephilim offspring together with human women?

- So the angels with the suffix YHWH are not the b'nei elohim?
Who are the b'nei elohim then? Which kind of angels are they who sit in the divine council?

- Why aren't you able to translate ancient language? If you are speaking english now you should normally be able to speak ancient languages too?

- I thought we are only able to find fossils, if the animals died and were very rapidly covered with soil or mud (I think it needs even water to get the minerals from, for the fossilising-process, but I am not sure about this), so that it couldn't decease or been eaten by vultures? (So normally this needs a catastrophe (flood) or the cadavre has to fall into something like a tarpit or has to die next to the water)
So an animal that died an natural death on normal ground should'nt fossilise, because the corpse would be eaten or decease. But shouldn't this happen in antedeluvian times to modern animals and dinosaurs alike?
And shouldn't the corpses (of modern animals and dinosaurs) been preserved by the covering of the flood alike?
So we should nearly exclusively find fossils who died in the flood. So vultures can't be an argument.

[edit on 30-4-2008 by Kaleon]

Hello Ziba!
Can You tell us something nice about you angelic life?
Your best memories, places you enjoyed, loved ones, great human beings, and not human, you met.
Are you working out in something special right now, I mean in a peaceful or spiritual way?

Thank you,
Snc.

Come on...
Some answers please?

because female angels dont do the same things male angels do so it's not note worthy" So whats their task mainly? cooking? well no its mainly because most female angels arent like the messenger type you know theophanies and in the wars dipicted by prphets they never really describe sex just names

- If there are female angels, do angels have sex? are they able to procreate?
If not how could the angels get nephilim offspring together with human women? we cannot procreate with eachother

- So the angels with the suffix YHWH are not the b'nei elohim?no

Who are the b'nei elohim then?im not sue what you mean ? Which kind of angels are they who sit in the divine council?which devine council?

- Why aren't you able to translate ancient language? If you are speaking english now you should normally be able to speak ancient languages too?well you see for me its hard to grasp more than one language in my current state

- I thought we are only able to find fossils, if the animals died and were very rapidly covered with soil or mud (I think it needs even water to get the minerals from, for the fossilising-process, but I am not sure about this), so that it couldn't decease or been eaten by vultures? (So normally this needs a catastrophe (flood) or the cadavre has to fall into something like a tarpit or has to die next to the water)
So an animal that died an natural death on normal ground should'nt fossilise, because the corpse would be eaten or decease. But shouldn't this happen in antedeluvian times to modern animals and dinosaurs alike?
And shouldn't the corpses (of modern animals and dinosaurs) been preserved by the covering of the flood alike?
So we should nearly exclusively find fossils who died in the flood. So vultures can't be an argument. here are the facts dinosaur were huge true so it would take alot of animals to clean them up that why there are so many incomplete fossils some bones were eaten
the earth is only ten thousand years old so work it out

Originally posted by thestatue
here are the facts dinosaur were huge true so it would take alot of animals to clean them up that why there are so many incomplete fossils some bones were eaten
the earth is only ten thousand years old so work it out

- But as I said we find the fossils of smaller animals, insects, fishes, leaves etc too...
But only very few out of place artifacts of human remains (if they are not a hoax)

- And by the b'nei elohim and the divine council I meant the concept described here: www.thedivinecouncil.com... (But I have linked this earlier)

Why I want to know who they are, is because they seem to be described in the bible as sth. different from angels (even as gods). So are they different from angels? If not, which kind of angels are they? What power do they posses? How many of them rebell against god?

- oh, and you left out the question of snc24

okay as for the dinosaur talk i leave it to you and what you may discover i just know because of what i have seen


now for these betrayers i was not aware of thr bible verse til i look yes in total context i understand.this is actually quite interesting be cause of a another post i have been discussing in one about how all myths and legends about pagan gods are because of demons and this bible verse indeed states that matter in which is the solution the term calling them gods is just that because poeple of that time viewed these demon or rebelled angels as gods so heard at those times it would have made sense to the people of that time.



snc......memories are very special to me some of the most meaningful ones are ones where i am battling something

right now i have a few people i am guardian of.....and then of course i still have my demon nemesis meaning other than satan direct enemies