who is obama???

hi i would like some info on this guy called obama.

people keep refurring to him as the anti-christ, but being from england i dont really know that much about this guy the only thing i can find is his political web page and nothing else.


sorry for being a nuisence guys but i want to know something about this guy so i can understand what people are talking about.

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thanks alot

all i can find is his biography but not any reason for him being an anti-christ.

even though a picture i found of him reminds me of the devil those lips and his long chin




[edit on 25-2-2007 by kerrichin]

well my friend I would not call him the anti-christ what I would call him though is a european socialist. he is for bigger government control over the individual by pushing universal healthcare and higher income taxation.

he is a slick talker, he loves speaking in generalities without hammering and going into detail on important issues, he is weak on defense and lacks a proper iraq and middle east strategy he also plays politics with war just to gain votes which is pathetic. however people especially people on the left seem to love him, I will admit he is a great speaker and he would make a great independent or conservative if only he changed his political views, I honestly wish he was more pro-individual and pro-capitalism.

his voting record on the fairtax scorecard says it all.

I have to give the man props though when it's due, I love how he kicked the crap out of hillary recently when their camps had an exchange, it was brilliant and she lost steam because of it.

btw I can't wait until I visit the Uk and the dam.



[edit on 26-2-2007 by ape]

Originally posted by kerrichin
hi i would like some info on this guy called obama.

people keep refurring to him as the anti-christ

I don't know about the anti-christ... I mean, he's not white, infact he's black, although I suspect that Hillary and others will attempt to put an astrisk on that, and his name doesn't sound anything like mine, which generally scares the heck out of the more narrow-minded elements of the public, but I think anti-christ is a bit of a stretch.

Religion has been a traditional avenue of attack against him because he is so obviously (right down to his name and facial build) not quite part of "our group", and when people think about how to isolate somebody "different" in a way that people won't see as bigotted and will take seriously, religion is always a favorite.

Alan Keyes tried it with him, making the argument that "Christ wouldn't vote for Obama" because Obama's politics are irreconcilable with Christian principles, but in a democratic primary (where mostly everyone is at least mildly pro-choice) you've got to go a little deeper than that for religion to work, hence the constant barrage of anti-christ scuttlebutt and the throwing around of his middle name, etc.


Who is he? Well love him or hate him he's a dang good politician. He's got a knack for keeping unions on his side even when he can't give them everything they want, probably because of his intellectual but still understandable and charismatic speaking and writing.

Some of what ape said is accurate, (though the parts that I consider most accurate would apply to virtually any politician).

I wouldn't call him a European socialist though: I expect him to actually come in to the right of Hillary there. He doesn't really put his foot down that hard. He opposes the Bush tax cuts and he wants more money for education, healthcare, etc but he's not entirely cradle to grave. He seems more concerned with using the government to give the worker a running start at capitalism than actually replacing it.

He's definately liberal though, socially in particular. He's pro-minority and immigration, at least somewhat- he does hedge his bets, he's very live and let live about religion (by my reading of his book I think he stopped just shy of admitting that he only joined the church because it was a social venue through which to accomplish good things; he may or may not be a believer, though I do not say that because of his politics), he's vehemently against Iraq (apparently trying to get to the left of Hillary there, but he'll be hard-pressed to do that since he's never had the opportunity to abuse US Marines while his spouse was commander in chief).

As current Democratic contenders go he isn't all that bad, seeing as Bill Richardson strikes me as if he didn't know what he was talking about, Dennis Kucinich is unelectable, and Hillary would need 8 reindeer and a sleigh to haul all of her baggage. I don't know how he will do against Biden- that could be the big surprise perhaps, depending on how well Biden can mobilize moderate Democrats- Obama might ultimately be the guy who split the far left on Hillary to pave the way for Biden.

thanks for filling me in guys dont feel so blind to conversations about this guy