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posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 04:57 PM
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LIBYA HAS WMD'S!

story.news.yahoo.com.../ap/20031219/ap_on_re_af/britain_libya_weapons_6

Bush just talked about it.

We here at ATS (some) saw something coming from Libya. It was too obvious.

Anyone, want to talk about how this will effect the mideast, or world?



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:04 PM
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yeah, I saw that on CNN.com. Looking forward for them to finally put their story up, it's just a big red BREAKING NEWS thing at the top.

The CNN pseudo-story said they were only in the process of building them, not that they already had them, though.

That story says the same thing, they're dismanteling the programs.



Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi has confirmed his country has sought in the past to develop weapons of mass destruction capabilities but plans to dismantle all such programs immediately, Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) said Friday.


[Edited on 12-19-2003 by junglejake]



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:06 PM
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Does Libya have a lot of oil? If not they have nothing to worry about.



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:08 PM
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Kaddafi kind of lost his taste for messing with the US after losing a few close family members... I don't think he's getting back in the biz anytime soon... This is nothing more than grandstanding....and ways of drumming up more US citizen support for simply stormin' into the middle east guns a blazin'....

Man, he doesn't even wait for the body to get cold does he? Guess it's "strike while the iron's hot"....*sigh*

Luckily, this is nothing more than rhetoric to lay the groundwork for future action....in a couple of years....



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:11 PM
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But the United States has kept its own 17-year embargo in place. Washington has said Libya is actively developing biological and chemical weapons, upgrading its nuclear capabilities and seeking ballistic missiles to deliver weapons of mass destruction, for which it is receiving help from countries that sponsor terrorism.


Their it goes again.

Why is it that American can devolop such things, to an extreme amount?

Given that these country do pose a "terrorist" threat.

Deep



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:37 PM
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The Bush administration is living in a bizarre parallel universe. Where all the evil-doers (read: Muslim) have WMD! Don't you feel safe knowing Dubya's there to save us?!



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:47 PM
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I think that most of you have got the wrong end of the stick.

news.bbc.co.uk...

The story is about Libya dismatling it's weapons program and being welcomed back into the international community. It is not a situation where Libya is being condemned. Rather the opposite.



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:49 PM
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Canadian Press
Slideshow: Libya to End WMD Program

Blair Announces Libya's Intent to Disarm
(AP Video)



Blair said Britain and the United States had been engaged in talks with Libya for nine months.


"Libya came to us in March following successful negotiations on Lockerbie to see if it could resolve its weapons of mass destruction issue in a similarly cooperative manner," the prime minister said in the northern English city of Durham.


"Libya has now declared its intent to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction completely and to limit the range of Libyan missiles to no greater than 300 kilometers (186 miles)," he said.


Blair said Gadhafi had promised that the process would be "transparent and verifiable."


The U.N. Security Council ended U.N. sanctions against Libya Sept. 12 after Gadhafi's government took responsibility for the bombing of a Pan Am passenger jet over Lockerbie, Scotland, and agreed to pay families of the 270 victims US$2.7 billion. The council's decision was largely symbolic, since the United Nations (news - web sites) had temporarily suspended its embargo in April 1999



So thier disarming yet the Us is still content that they have weapons?

And where is Osama?

Deep



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:52 PM
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Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this programme completely.
UK Prime Minister Tony Blair announced the decision and called it "an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud it".

Colonel Gaddafi had told him the process of dismantling the programme would be "transparent and verifiable", the prime minister said in a statement from Durham Cathedral.

The range of all Libya's missiles would be restricted to "no more then 300km", he added.

Today's announcement is a further step in making the world a safer place

Prime Minister Tony Blair


Full transcript: Blair's Libya statement
The US and its allies have long suspected that Libya had secret chemical and bio-weapons programmes, however Libya always denied such allegations saying it had only facilities for pharmaceutical or agricultural research.

In 1995 the country reportedly reopened its Rabta pharmaceutical plant, at Qabilat az Zaribah, which prior to its 1990 closure had produced up to 100 tons of chemical weapons.

But chemical weapon production at Libya's underground Tarhuna facility is thought to have been suspended following intense public scrutiny.

UK officials believe Libya was close to obtaining a nuclear weapons capability before the deal.

US President George Bush said Colonel Gaddafi had agreed "immediately and unconditionally" that international weapons inspectors could enter Libya.



If they find no weapons?

International weapons inspectors should be sent in to deal with this problem, though the bush administration does not care for the outcome either way.

Deep



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
The Bush administration is living in a bizarre parallel universe. Where all the evil-doers (read: Muslim)


Can you blame them if they do with a crazy # like Bush running the show?



have WMD! Don't you feel safe knowing Dubya's there to save us?!


About as safe as the last beer in the fridge at the Bush twins dorm room.



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 06:02 PM
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It must be understood that Libya is trying desperately to return to the international fold and has been for years.
Gaddafi has softened his hardline stance over the years and this declaration comes as no suprise. The end of the Lockerbie incident was the key which opened the door to this development.

Libya is seen by the West as being nowhere near the threat that it once was. It's society is already largely Westernised - the Pepsi and Levi culture is prevalent amongst it's young population and it desperately needs US and European approval to help it's economy to grow.

As for not finding WoMD? Libya has stated that it will fully co-operate. The information that it was developing WoMD was not gained by US intelligence but supplied by Libya itself. The offer of inspections was also given by Libya itself. Gaddafi recognises that he does not need WoMD as he has no external enemies that it would be viable to use them against.



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
Does Libya have a lot of oil? If not they have nothing to worry about.


if you want an oil war then we should go after alaska. my girlfriend is from alaska and she says that they have more oil than iraq but the sell it to the russians. and yes i know that alaska is a state.



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 07:37 PM
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my girlfriend is from alaska and she says that they have more oil than iraq but the sell it to the russians.


More oil than Iraq? Learn something new everyday. Time for some research. BTW, the United States does not control where it's oil is sent unless it mandates that a percentage of this oil gets sent to the strategic reserve.

I think the majority of people would agree that besides Kazaa file sharing, America is a capitalist society. Any mineral rights the government owns (off or onshore) it leases to private corporations. Mineral right's are ownership verifications of what is below the surface of the earth. The government can either sell or lease mineral rights for any land that has not had its mineral rights purchased by a private individual. But, the government has no control over what is done with oil if it is extracted through the lease of mineral rights from a private individual or organization.

This is why the Administration must conquer other oil rich countries, a generous portion of the mineral rights under land in the United States is already privately owned or leased.

How can Bush's new socialist government make money to cover its spending with all these damn patriot capitalists in the way making money privately?

*EDIT: My bad's

[Edited on 12-19-2003 by insite]



posted on Dec, 19 2003 @ 08:14 PM
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I want to know who gave the US the title of 'World Police'. How come the US can have WMD, and so can it's friends, but no-one else can, even though the US is the only nation to have ever used them
. Who says the US (government) are good guys?



posted on Dec, 20 2003 @ 09:09 AM
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Look at this cr@p,

Bush Urges Other Nations to Follow Libya
story.news.yahoo.com.../ap/20031220/ap_on_re_af/libya_weapons&cid=515&ncid=716


Yeah, and it only applies to those who aren't "allied".
WTF is this bullsh|t?

Look out, here comes the "allied" forces saying you can't have what they do. And if you refuse their demands you'll be invaded.

Sounds NWOish to me.



posted on Dec, 20 2003 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Chud
I want to know who gave the US the title of 'World Police'. How come the US can have WMD, and so can it's friends, but no-one else can, even though the US is the only nation to have ever used them
. Who says the US (government) are good guys?


Wow good points and here I am mainly mad my tax dollars go to policing the world while seeing no benefit, when they could go to providing people with health insurance so I could get rid of a 12,528 bill every month for my employees.



posted on Dec, 21 2003 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by Leveller
I think that most of you have got the wrong end of the stick.

news.bbc.co.uk...

The story is about Libya dismatling it's weapons program and being welcomed back into the international community. It is not a situation where Libya is being condemned. Rather the opposite.


You're right in one sense. Ghadafi sees the writing on the wall and he's scrambling to play nice. Which is not a bad thing. Reagan took his fangs out and now Bush's Iraq invasion has removed any teeth remaining.

If you think of it, though, these Arab rulers really don't have much room to move. What's going on is an attempt to completely disarm the mid-east apart from friendly governments. What happens after that? Complete western domination through their willing disarmament. It's a catch 22 for them.



posted on Dec, 22 2003 @ 08:23 AM
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Ha! Look at that. Some reason, they want the U.S. Oil Companies back. geeesh,

"Give us your oil now, or we'll come kill you, and steal it." G.W.B. to Ghadafi

story.news.yahoo.com.../nm/20031222/ts_nm/energy_libya_usa_dc_3



posted on Dec, 22 2003 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
Ha! Look at that. Some reason, they want the U.S. Oil Companies back. geeesh,

"Give us your oil now, or we'll come kill you, and steal it." G.W.B. to Ghadafi

story.news.yahoo.com.../nm/20031222/ts_nm/energy_libya_usa_dc_3


Big surprise.



posted on Dec, 23 2003 @ 07:40 PM
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The truth rears it ugly head, as U.S. Oil Companies Eye Libya Return.
U.S. Oil Companies Eye Libya Return
story.news.yahoo.com.../ap/20031223/ap_on_re_af/libya_us_oil_4

leeme say the title one more time,

U.S. Oil Companies Eye Libya Return
oh i need help. lol

" An increase in Libyan oil output would augment global supplies and could eventually help to moderate prices for refined products such as gasoline."

How much you wanna bet, now that we, the sheeple, are use to paying at least $1.50/gal, it won't drop, they'll just line their pockets with this money.

Ohh, the good old days, i remember when it was 0.99 cents a gallon, OH WAIT! THAT WAS ONLY 3-4 years ago!




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