reply posted on 2-3-2007 @ 03:10 PM by OldBoy
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Some excellent discussion & information people, many thanks. I still dont know 100% but I figure, he may be turning up at Bohemian Grove real soon.
What a 'lovelyworld' we live in.
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reply posted on 2-3-2007 @ 03:46 PM by sweftl337
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Originally posted by OldBoy
Is Barack Obama a member of any slimey secret society, like the rest of the corrupt us & a leaders ? 
Yes, he is a member of the Martinist order and also a Mason of another irregular lodge. He's completely bought and in the pockets of the Illuminati.
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reply posted on 2-3-2007 @ 03:49 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by Hobbes
Wow... I don't suspect, from that statement, that you have any preconceived ideas or agenda. Or open hostility. 
Hey.. Obama is a politician and running for president. MANY of them have been Skull & Bones ... Masons ... etc.
It's a fair question.
It's also safe to say that if he were in a secret society, that it would most likely be SECRET.  Secret, that is, until Hillary finds out and
then she'll use it to blow him out of the water while she's in her quest for the Oval Office.
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reply posted on 4-3-2007 @ 05:20 PM by D_Mason
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Obama's skin is darker but from my observations he just falls right in line with the rest of them. He is being groomed in my opinion because he
doesn't have a chance to beat the Republican nominee in the general election. Biden, and Edwards are much better canditates at this point.
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 12:25 PM by PrinceHall06
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Barack Obama is indeed a 32nd degree Prince Hall Mason. This however is not a secret society, unlike Masonry's detractors would have you believe, in
as much as Masonic buildings are CLEARLY marked, members readliy identify themselves with rings, bumper stickers, and lapel pins, I would hardly call
the Masonic Fraternal Order , a secret society.
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 01:14 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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PrinceHall, that is the hardest thing to get people to understand..Masonry has been written about extensively. To say that it's a "secret society"
is pretty ridiculous in my estimation. Everyone wants to bring up "secret" handshakes and so what. To me, that hardly gives credence to Masonry
being a "secret society."
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 01:27 PM by yeht
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Originally posted by PrinceHall06
Barack Obama is indeed a 32nd degree Prince Hall Mason. This however is not a secret society, unlike Masonry's detractors would have you believe, in
as much as Masonic buildings are CLEARLY marked, members readliy identify themselves with rings, bumper stickers, and lapel pins, I would hardly call
the Masonic Fraternal Order , a secret society. 
Sources??
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 02:56 PM by PrinceHall06
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My source is having sat in open Lodge with Brother Obama.
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 03:52 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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Originally posted by PrinceHall06
My source is having sat in open Lodge with Brother Obama.   No better proof than experience..Is there?
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 05:44 PM by Frank Black
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Originally posted by hikix
i saw obama being interviewed on some cbs special. He actually seems like a very normal, down to earth guy. Hes a breath of fresh air. I hope he
makes it far enough where we can actually vote for him, because he def has my vote. In a country where apparently anyone can be president, we get 2
bush's and 2 clintons for over 20 years?!?! Im sick of old white rich men obsessed with controlling oil and controlling the world. My vote is for
obama. 
Ok so by your deduction we should elect a black president just because hes not white, rich, and old? That does not automatically make him a
trustworthy person or a good candidate for president.
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 05:47 PM by Frank Black
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Actually yes Masons are a secret society. What you are saying is that thier existence is not secret. What im saying is that their meetings and rituals
are
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reply posted on 5-3-2007 @ 06:09 PM by billybob
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obama is illuminati aristocracy.
his appearence from 'nowhere', and subsequent rocket to the front of the political line are no coincidence. it is because he is of the sang grael.
he is related to the royals.
don't ask me to back this up with sources, because i'm only repeating what i heard from 'a veiw from space', with 'spaceman' gary bell on
mojoradio am640 toronto. you can listen online on saturday nights between 11pm and 2 am(unless there's a hockey game, and then you have to wait til
they stop babbling and overanalyzing the gladiators and the combat.
i repeat what i hear on spaceman, because the guy is an incredible researcher. he followed obama's ancestory, and found that the family has always
rubbed elbows with all the old boys in the old boys' club.
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reply posted on 6-3-2007 @ 07:31 AM by PrinceHall06
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You have to be joking....MAsonic Meetings are not secret. The building are clearly marked with HUGE EMBLEMS ! The meeting dates and times are posted
on bulliten boards which are in the lobby of the buildings which are freely accesible, not to mention on any lodges website. THe rituals can be found
on the internet or any second hand bookstore ! The means and modes of recognition used to be secret, I dont know how secret they are
anymore...........
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reply posted on 6-3-2007 @ 11:43 AM by SpeakerofTruth
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Originally posted by Frank Black
Actually yes Masons are a secret society. What you are saying is that thier existence is not secret. What im saying is that their meetings and rituals
are 
Blah...no they are not... Read "Duncan's Rituals." Read the works of Pike,Hall and Churchward... Their beliefs and practices have been extensively
written about. There is only something "secret" about the Masons for those who have never bothered to do real research.
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reply posted on 6-3-2007 @ 04:15 PM by wu kung
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Just out of curiosity, how did this thread go from Obamas "secret society" links, to whether or not the Masons are a "secret society"?
...and besides, we're a "society with secrets", so get it right.
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reply posted on 6-3-2007 @ 04:19 PM by flight357
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its impossible for a topic like this not to go in that direction. At least from what I've read so far.
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reply posted on 6-3-2007 @ 04:31 PM by wu kung
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I know!
It borderlines on silly!
Okay, how about this;
someone (I don't really care who, since I don't know any of you personally, with the slight, and I do mean slight exception of Hobbes
[what's up bro?]) comes out of the red corner to post irrefutable proof that Obama is not only a member of some "secret society" and is part of
some nWo [4 life!  ] conspiracy to overthrow blah blah blah...
Alright?
Now, someone else (again, I don't really care who) comes from the blue corner to post any and all evidence to debunk that said irrefutable proof.
Okay?
Yes?
Alright...now...
Let's get it on!
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reply posted on 6-3-2007 @ 06:00 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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Originally posted by wu kung
Just out of curiosity, how did this thread go from Obamas "secret society" links, to whether or not the Masons are a "secret society"?

Because everyone continues to insinuate that Freemasonry is a "secret" society...That's how. You are right... it does border on silly that people
are continuously trying to throw Masonry into the mix of everything..
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reply posted on 7-3-2007 @ 02:39 AM by Frank Black
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Originally posted by Frank Black
Actually yes Masons are a secret society. What you are saying is that thier existence is not secret. What im saying is that their meetings and rituals
are 
Blah...no they are not... Read "Duncan's Rituals." Read the works of Pike,Hall and Churchward... Their beliefs and practices have been extensively
written about. There is only something "secret" about the Masons for those who have never bothered to do real research.
[edit on 6-3-2007 by SpeakerofTruth] 
Ok so you are saying that meetings are public?
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reply posted on 7-3-2007 @ 12:06 PM by PrinceHall06
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Your logic is faulty and flawed. No, the meetings are not public, however stockholders meetings of major companies are not public, my church has
deacons and trustees meetings, they are not public....Are these secret societies ? No, but according to your logic, they are......Please stop the
madness.
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