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9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable


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Topic started on 17-12-2003 @ 07:14 PM by FULCRUM


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(CBS) For the first time, the chairman of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks is saying publicly that 9/11 could have and should have been prevented, reports CBS News Correspondent Randall Pinkston.

"This is a very, very important part of history and we've got to tell it right," said Thomas Kean.

"As you read the report, you're going to have a pretty clear idea what wasn't done and what should have been done," he said. "This was not something that had to happen."

Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame.

"There are people that, if I was doing the job, would certainly not be in the position they were in at that time because they failed. They simply failed," Kean said




This comming from a former Republican governor!




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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 07:16 PM by Colonel


Is it time for Bush to go to jail now??????????????????????

[Edited on 17-12-2003 by Colonel]



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 07:18 PM by FULCRUM


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Kean promises major revelations in public testimony beginning next month from top officials in the FBI, CIA, Defense Department, National Security Agency and, maybe, President Bush and former President Clinton.



I cant wait to hear this one!




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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 07:22 PM by FULCRUM


Originally posted by Colonel
Is it time for Bush to go to jail now?



I think that they (you) will try him first..

I hear that you have death penalty over there..

Bush will get justice, that he denyed from millions!




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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 07:23 PM by dexxy


!Wow! a ray of hope shines on the U.S.A. about time!



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 07:38 PM by KrazyIvan


Originally posted by Colonel
Is it time for Bush to go to jail now??????????????????????

[Edited on 17-12-2003 by Colonel]



NO ITS TIME FOR CLINTON TO GO TO JAIL. NEED I REMIND YOU THAT HE HAD THREE CHANCES TO KILL BIN LADEN AND HE SAID "NO" ALL THREE TIMES THEY HAD CONFIRMED LOCATIONS, AND EVERY #ING TIME CLINTON SAID "NO" CLINTO SHOULD GO TO JAIL.
BUSH GOT THE BIN LADEN PROBLEM FROM THE COWARD PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

[Edited on 12-17-2003 by KrazyIvan]



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 07:42 PM by heelstone


Well now. Doesn't look so much like a conspiracy theory anymore, does it?



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 07:50 PM by FULCRUM


Originally posted by heelstone
Well now. Doesn't look so much like a conspiracy theory anymore, does it?




I really hope that the people of USA and the WORLD will learn the real truth when this is over.

And it now really seems that the real truth is something else than as told by the current admin,
as told by the Bush crime family (c) Colonel.




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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 09:16 PM by kegs


Plausible deniability anyone?

I wouldn't get exited about any stories of this type, we've seen them since the event in the exact proportion of small, large and spaced out properties for an exact purpose.

People will accept incompetence. They will accept the story that 'we made a mistake this time, it'll never happen again'. They'll bitch and moan about the incompetence of the incumbents and the system but equally they'll be placated by the 'we're only human' excuses that make them seem like well meaning bunglers.

It's the old 'it's my first day on the job' excuse in political terms. They will eventually accept responsibility, but only on their terms.



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 09:41 PM by Seekerof


"Preventable"...as in "avoidable"?

Yep, you bet, 9/11 could have been prevented....
So could have:
The Cruxifiction of Christ
The Fall of the Roman Empire
The French Revolution
The 100 Year War
The American Civil War
WWI
WWII
Korean War
Vietnam War
Russia's Afghanistan War
The 1st Gulf War
The 2nd Gulf War

Just to name a few.........all "preventable".....



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seekerof



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 09:51 PM by Colonel


Originally posted by Seekerof
"Preventable"...as in "avoidable"?

Yep, you bet, 9/11 could have been prevented....
So could have:
The Cruxifiction of Christ--not preventable
The Fall of the Roman Empire--not preventable
The French Revolution--not preventable
The 100 Year War
The American Civil War
WWI
WWII
Korean War
Vietnam War
Russia's Afghanistan War
The 1st Gulf War
The 2nd Gulf War

Just to name a few.........all "preventable".....



regards
seekerof


You're such a Bush lackey.

These are truly preventable...

Vietnam War--preventable
Russia's Afghanistan War--preventable
The 1st Gulf War--preventable
The 2nd Gulf War--preventable



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 09:53 PM by Seekerof


Ummm, I forgot another Colonel....
Pearl Harbor.....was also "preventable"

Hows Dean doing these days anyhow Colonel?


regards
seekerof



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:12 PM by kegs


The Crucifixion of Christ
That was for a purpose (not to get into religious entanglement) no reason for it to be prevented.

The fall of the Roman Empire
Inevitable.

The French Revolution
Why should that have been prevented?

The 100 Year War
Don’t know enough about it to comment.

The American Civil War
Ditto

WWI
Have my own theories on it, but probably unpreventable eventually.

WWII
Unpreventable

Korean War
don't know enough about it.

Vietnam War
Defiantly preventable.

Russia's Afghanistan War
Defiantly preventable.

The 1st Gulf War
Definitely preventable

The 2nd Gulf War
Defiantly preventable.

Those that where defiantly preventable were so because someone had to make an individual decision to start them. There where other alternatives, and no immediate undeniable threat, so by definition they were preventable. I'm not saying that is a valid reason to ignore a threat, but all those decisions were avoidable, and if efforts had to put into other means in the same way they have always been put into the projected threat and application of force, they more than likely wouldn't have occurred in the first place.



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:20 PM by MaskedAvatar


Originally posted by Seekerof
Ummm, I forgot another Colonel....
Pearl Harbor.....was also "preventable"

Hows Dean doing these days anyhow Colonel?


regards
seekerof



Yes, Pearl Harbor is definitely in this category.

But Dean isn't. This isn't about US party polictics, it's about 9/11 and getting the truth out.


to the last comment. Not good form.



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:25 PM by Russian


you know what else is preventable...

Dean become a president in 2004!



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:28 PM by Colonel


You know what else was preventable?

9-11! Meaning that 3,000 people never had to die! The World Trade Center never had to be destroyed! And what was Bush doing to handle the situation? Runnin scared in Air Force 1!



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:32 PM by Seekerof


Thanks Keg...

How about this one:

If Clinton would have taken the deal from the Sundanese for Bin Laden....would 9/11 been avoidable:preventable?


The real question is was 9/11 'realistically and reasonably' "preventable"?
Can't any act of terrorism be coined "preventable"?

I mean:
OBL did declare war on the US...therefore, we knew a terrorist attack could happen....

The US knew, from the past, that terrorist have hijacked planes before....

The US knew that Al Queda' has performed terrorists attacks on US targets in the past....

Did we know that 19 terrorist were going to hijack airliners and simultaneously attack the WTC on 9/11?

Personally, anything can be coined "preventable", well except: death and taxes....


regards
seekerof



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:45 PM by Valhall


Originally posted by Colonel
You know what else was preventable?

9-11! Meaning that 3,000 people never had to die! The World Trade Center never had to be destroyed! And what was Bush doing to handle the situation? Runnin scared in Air Force 1!


Runnin scared in Air Force 1?

You've got to be kidding.



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:50 PM by kegs



By Seekerof
The real question is was 9/11 'realistically and reasonably' "preventable"?
Can't any act of terrorism be coined "preventable"?



According to the same people who say 9/11 was unpreventable, it can. How many stories have you heard of potential terrorist attacks being 'prevented' or thwarted since 9/11? no doubt many.


Did we know that 19 terrorist were going to hijack airliners and simultaneously attack the WTC on 9/11?



Yes. but of course that's a matter of opinion.

We aren't talking about what is preventable in an enveloping cosmic sense of the inevitable, or what humans deem as inevitable in terms of acts of instinct or history given human nature or even acts of God. We're talking about what is preventable to our governments given the collective knowledge of their intelligence services, that's a totally different scenario to death and taxes.

I can't quote decisively on the Sudanese question, need more info. I don't like to replace knowledge with arrogant supposition.



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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:51 PM by Colonel


No, I'm not kiddin. He was runnin scared like the coward he is. ANd he should be BLAMED for 9-11! Read this thread!

www.belowtopsecret.com...



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