posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Lafave
While I believe that we have reached a pinnacle in recorded history due to our scientific advances and improved technology, could it all be lost with
a global catastrophy like a flood, meteor or nuclear haulocaust?
Short of a complete meltdown of the Earth's crust, the answer is "no."
It seems to me that genetically modern humans, while maybe not scientifically provable, have survived one or more global disasters based on
these legends. There seems to be a memory of something in them. I do not believe that the bible and myths should be taken word for word as fact, but
it seems that the global disasters referenced in them are plausible based on what we scientifically know today has happened in our unrecorded past.
You're viewing folklore with a modern knowledge of the world.
To people and societies that don't have our modern views (the roaming clans of Bushmen of the Kalahari, for instance), a large local disaster would
be interpreted as a disaster that covered the whole world... for it covered THEIR whole known world.
Genetics can tell when there's been a bottleneck in the gene pool (the number of people who are alive are reduced to a few thousand and only their
children survive.) There is some evidence of a bottleneck 40,000 years ago though there is no global disaster at that time period:
As technology advances in civilizations does it leave more of a trace or less of a trace?
More of a trace. We need to mine metals which leaves tailings, heaps of minerals in one area, we use fertilizer and cultivation (changes soil), build
structures (changes density of soil) and leave behind all kinds of waste including soot (which can be seen on a global scale) and so forth. Synthetic
materials may not be biodegradeable and some structures are built to be very durable and long-lasting.
Would anybody 5000 years from now know that we had computers if we were wiped out? Or electricity? I would think that if we lost electricity
due to a calamity of global proportions, any surviving people would forget about computers quite quickly.
Remmber that your understanding doesn't represent the scope of human knowledge. I know how to build simple batteries and as long as books or other
records existed, people like me could reestablish technology and power. Groups of tech heads tend to flock together... we seek each other out. While
the rest might be banging away at each other with guns and slingshots, we'd be off in some corner figuring out how to get forges running and refining
running. I'd be salvaging LEDs to light my workshops. I can breadboard simple circuits (in spite of being afflicted with "girl cooties.")
And we're the type who teach our kids and get them to collaborate with us. So our children would go onward.
Where would the proof of that be for future archeologists if we were globally and suddenly wiped out?
Don't forget that our cities are built on top of older cities and houses. How many old buildings have you seen razed to build a new shopping center
or housing complex? The old bits are still there under the new house, so archaeologists would still find the layers of the cities. They would also
find our precursor technology, and our garbage dumps would be an absolute treasure trove of EVERYTHING we've thrown away for the past century and