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Theory Reguarding Adam Weishaupt And Jesuitism

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posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 12:09 AM
I have a theory about Bavarian Illumninati scion and ex Jesuit Adam Weishaupt* I believe that the clever Mr Weishaupt never actually left the Society Of Jesus (Jesuits) but was in fact a kind of double agent: Forming the Illuminati in order to seek out and expose the enemies of the Church and Jesuitism in the societies such as Masonry and expose them* As any espionage organization knows, the best way to defeat your enemies is to capture them before they strike, and the best way to do this is make them believe that you are one with them and share their beliefs* In this way, the Illuminati was simply the "Intelligence agency" of Jesuitism, who saw the libertines in the Masonic lodges and the artist as a threat, and it is not wholey unlikely that the Jesuits had their own plans for "world domination" and sought to remove any enemies*
At any rate, Weishaupt certainly based the Illuminatis pyramidel secrecy structure (members only knowing their direct superiors) on Jesuitism, and copied many of their ranks*

So this is my theory, that Weishaupt was a faithful Jesuit to the very end, what does everyone think?

posted on Jan, 29 2007 @ 04:31 PM
What jesuit ranks did he copy?

How was the illuminati like that of the jesuits, beyond merely being 'pyramidal', and, was the illuminati even pyramidal? doesn't seem that weishaupt was necesariyl the supreme commander or soemthing like that.

posted on Jan, 30 2007 @ 07:14 AM
I think I see where you are going with this CGL… Like a 16th century COINTELPRO? Infiltrate in order to sabotage.

Usually the Illuminati is seen as combating the Jesuits and it doesn’t seem like the idea of granting Masonic degrees occurred to Weishaupt in the beginning. Although if his task (his secret Jesuit mission) was to infiltrate the “masonic” movement, stir up trouble and get both orders (Illuminati, Masons) banned in Bavaria. The plan succeeded.

However, at least publicly, and even at a young age, (1766) he found subjects that were taught as undeniable truths in Jesuit dominated theological college to be insupportable. So, as far as Ideologies goes, The Jesuits and Weishaupt were quite opposite. He was a radical. But that’s exactly what a double agent would be expected to do, isn’t it?

He was deeply influence by his studies at the Jesuits College, and he did (as you pointed out) base the titles for his ranks on the Jesuit system.

General -> Provincial -> National -> Assistant

Weishaupt was of course, the General.

Also, the studies at the Novice degree roughly corresponded to the studies of the Jesuits college’s First degree.

At the Minerval degree, the Illuminatus received lessons equivalent to the Jesuits college’s Second and Third degree.

Weishaupt’s mentor Ickstatt accused Weishaupt of still being in league with the Jesuits at the Ingolstadt University (Especially Prof. Stadler) before the founding of the Illuminati.

After it’s creation, top members of the Illuminati constantly accused each-other of being under-cover Jesuits, for instance Baron de Knigge made that very accusation against Weishaupt when the two were fighting over the Illuminati’s top spot.

Hope this helps, good luck with your theory...

[edit on 30/1/07 by ConspiracyNut23]

posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 09:00 AM
a reply to: Nygdan

Adam Weishaupt taught Canon law inside a university that was co-owned by the Jesuits. Canon law is the Catholic Church's official law. ( Adam Weishaupt was educated and trained by Jesuits from a young age and was also a Jesuit himself but since the Jesuits were banned from the Vatican and most of Europe Adam Weishaupt and his fellow Jesuits decided to recreate the Illuminati that already existed before the Jesuits were formed in 1540. The Bavarian Illuminati was created to allow the Jesuits to get revenge against the Vatican for expelling the Jesuits from the Catholic Church in 1773. Please do NOT be another researcher that ignores the secret war between the Jesuits and the White Papacy of the Catholic Church. The key to understanding the Bavarian Illuminati is to remember 1: that the Jesuits previously had a fight with the Catholic Church because the Popes and most of the Monarchs of Europe were banning the Jesuits from Europe. 2: Ignatius Loyola the founder of the Jesuits was also a member of the Alumbrados. The Alumbrados were the Spanish version of the Illuminati and Ignatius Loyola used members of the Alumbrados to create the Jesuits. The Jesuits even use the All seeing eye as 1 of their symbols on their coins. Only a disinformation agent or somebody that does NOT know about the true history of the Jesuits will NOT mention the fact that the Jesuits are the REAL ILLUMINATI. The Jesuits are the real Illuminati because they control high-level education for the Politicians. Most Politicians are educated and trained by the Jesuits. Adam Weishaupt was indeed a Jesuit and he even promoted 1 of the mottoes of the Jesuits and that is "The end justifies the means" The Jesuits were very powerful in Bavaria and the Suppression never had that much effect in Bavaria in 1773 so a lot of the Jesuits were still allowed to operate even though the order of the Jesuits were banned from the Catholic Church and the Jesuits were forced to become illegal. The Jesuits are also assassins and would never allow 1 of there students to fight against them. If Adam Weishaupt were a true enemy of the Jesuits then the leader of the Jesuits would have given a secret order to assassinate Adam Weishaupt. Adam Weishaupt was indeed a Jesuit under the influence of his Jesuit Superiors and also from the leader of the chain of command the Black Pope: Lorenzo Ricci. It is important to realize that the Jesuits are the Illuminati and if we fail to do this we will become confused. Please note the Jesuits also use the symbol of the All seeing eye. The Jesuits also co-created Scottish Rite Freemasonry by co-authoring the last 8 degrees for the purpose of restoring the Stuart Monarch back on the throne of England. The Jesuits co-created the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry from 1 of there old colleges the College of Clermont that was in Paris: The university that Adam Weishaupt worked from was a Jesuit university and today this university is called Munich University and surprise this university is still controlled by the Jesuits:

posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 06:25 AM

originally posted by: Count Germails Lovechild
I believe that the clever Mr Weishaupt never actually left the Society Of Jesus (Jesuits)

That's true. He never entered it in the first place.
There's more on this issue in the book The Secret School of Wisdom.

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