US President Orders Military To Begin Jailing All Civilian Protestors To War, page 1
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Topic started on 28-1-2007 @ 07:02 AM by Melbourne_Militia
G'day all,

We all knew that there was a chance of this hapenning, with all the websites and reporters stating that the US is heading towards becoming a police state, with some people agreeing but many out there still being ignorant to the facts.

Let me ask you all out there, what is freedom? What is one of the most important things in a democratic society?

Is it not the right to free speech?

Does the Statue of Liberty not represent freedom and Liberty for the American people?

Then may I present the following article to you which as it states is currently developing -

Titled -
"Jan 18th 2007, US President Orders Military To Begin Jailing All Civilian Protestors To War"

www.whatdoesitmean.com...



In yet another shocking prelude towards becoming a Total Police State, Russian Intelligence Analysts are reporting today that the American War Leaders have issued orders to the United States Military Northern Command authorizing the jailing, and military tribunals, for any American citizen critical of the ‘war effort’.




Furthering the complete destruction of the rights of the American people to ‘due process’ and ‘fair trials’, the American War Leaders have passed a new law subjecting their citizens to Military, instead of Civilian trials.


Mate, this is THE END of the constitutiton as you Yanks know it - to be subjected to this is totaly unnacceptable, your ability to free speech and protest has been removed, and not only that but you shall not be infront of a civilian judge anymore, but a military one, and you are at risk of being labelled a terrorist, and not being seen again.

Those concentration camps many have spoken off, I gurantee you will be coming on line very soon.

Your dear Statue of Liberty has just been violently raped by George Bush and shee is bleeding in pain. If I were the French, I'd take here back home for as the USA stands today, they are undeserving of it.

I honestly do not think that God can bless America anymore

[edit on 28/1/07 by Melbourne_Militia]

[edit on 28/1/07 by Melbourne_Militia]


reply posted on 28-1-2007 @ 07:14 AM by Roper
Sorry guys but this so called news article is rubbish.

Roper



reply posted on 28-1-2007 @ 09:09 AM by Terapin
I point you to this Washington Post article which proves that yes indeed Americans are free to express their discontent with the Bush Administrations war policy: Thousands protest War policy
From the Article:

Under a blue sky with a pale midday moon, tens of thousands of people angry about the war and other policies of the Bush administration danced, sang, shouted and chanted their opposition.
This happened just this weekend in front of the Whitehouse. Civilians, members of the military, prominent politicians, and civil leaders all took part. No one was silenced.

This demonstrates that not only do the people have freedom of expression, but that also the press have the freedom to report it. Any reasonable checking could have confirmed this. Latching onto a bogus article from a phony "news" outlet, and then posting it as the truth is no less than forwarding a Hoax. In the future you should always confirm such radical "news" and not create threads with false statements in the title.

There is no room on ATS for Hoaxes.

[edit on 28-1-2007 by Terapin]


reply posted on 28-1-2007 @ 10:10 AM by Togetic
I have a number of criticisms with this story.

  1. Consider the source. The Russians have an interest in undercutting America superiority by spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
  2. Where is the outcry? If this were legitimate, the ACLU wouldn't have stopped talking about it.
  3. The statements made by Gonzales imply that he is an idiot. They are hardly evidence of an order of this kind.
  4. Where are the people who have been taken? There must be one family out there, if this law is being enforced, whose loved one went to a protest and didn't come back.
  5. “If President Bush feels that he is not constrained by either the elected representatives of the American people, or the American people themselves, we must then consider that he, and his Administration, have become powers unto themselves and that the United States should therefore be considered a dictatorship, not a democracy.” First, this statement was made by a state analyst, and must be looked at through that lens. Second, Russia is not in any position to be telling other countries that they are embracing non-democratic policies. Third, where is the objective proof of this? Whereas Bush has pushed the limits on executive power, perhaps to an unhealthy extreme, nothing has been done by him to allow him to have a third term or to stop the election in 2008.
  6. If this law has been sneaked into a spending bill, where is the bill? None of the documentation cites it.
  7. "As outrage continues to build within the United States against the expansion of the war in Iraq, and the planned US attack upon Iran, the spokesman for the American War Leader has stated in response to a US Congressional move to block further war making...." Two problems here. First, "The American War Leader" is a subjective statement based on political ideology and not on any legitimate title given to the POTUS. This is a sign of biased and poor reporting. Second, the resolution passed by Congress was not a law. A resolution is a statement of opinion made by congress. In practice, it is worth no more than the paper it is printed on. Congress is free to stop the funding of the troops by passing a law, but they are too political to do so. That is the real travesty here: that people are ceding to political concerns and not doing what they believe is right.
  8. "To the American people themselves, they remain in abject denial of the dark Fascist forces descending around them; but soon, and much sooner than they could believe, and with their families and neighbors disappearing into the vast American Gulag, what they once believed in as the American Dream, will soon be shown for what it really is, an American Nightmare." If this were true, why is everyone proceeding as if there will be an election in 2008? Wouldn't any subversive force prevent those elections? And if so, why didn't they do it in 2003 or 2004 before their support waned so much? Why didn't they take control after 9/11 when people were at their most malleable? As an American who often personally holds unpopular opinions, I have never been subjected to any censorship. There is a very high burden of proof to show that freedoms are being eroded, especially when the source lacks such credibility.


My conclusion is that this is at best sloppy reporting based on rumor and hearsay, and at worst propaganda. It is all well and good to be vigilant about what the government is doing, but statements like these muddle the waters, create resentment, and make vigilance impossible.

[edit on 1/28/2007 by Togetic]
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