Originally posted by Nygdan
And that still doesn't mean that they cause more crimes than whites. If whites cause more of the actual number of crimes, maybe its the whites that
should be dealt with.
The non-aboriginal outnnumber the aboriginal nearly 50 to 1! Yet in prison the blacks make up a quarter of the population!!!
You cant honestly say that doesn't indicate something about the aboriginal population's contribution to crime.
That means that the vast majority of prisoners are white, and that the vast majority of crimes are carried out by whites, EVEN THOUGH they're not an
oppressed class AND they're the ones that created the system that is imprisoning them in the first place.
You are dodging the fact that a group that makes up TWO percent of the population in society accounts for TWENTY FIVE percent of the prison
population. Per capita, aboriginals are more responsible for crime than any other three ethnic groups put together!
How many beatings of aboriginals occur without resolution?
I know you are not going to believe me when I say this, but the majority of violence against aboriginals comes from other aboriginals. White
australians are too afraid to fight back because Aboriginal youths tend to hang out in large groups who will often look for a (much) smaller group of
people to prey upon.
For example, Friday just gone was Australia day. I went to the pub with some mates who ended up leaving before I did. I decided (Rather foolishly
thanks to a few Bundy and cola's) to walk home alone. As I passed the shopping center which is on my way home a group of around 7-8 aboriginal
crossed the road and starting walking in a direct line towards me. As they got within earshot one of them shouted out "Thats a nice flag (I was
wearing a flag like a cape) I reckon you should give us a go of it".
Naturally I told them that no they werent going to have my flag and naturally they started to surround me ready to act the heroes they are and fight
me on what they consider even ground.
Thankfully before anything too nasty could happen a police car happened to drive past so I pushed my way out of the group (receiving a few punches to
the head on the way) and flagged down the police who dropped me home but did ABOSOLUTELY NOTHING about the group that I had just got away from.
I found out yesterday, that they then went on down towards the pub and found two guys (who i used to surf with) walking home by them selves.
One of them has now got six stitches above his eye from where they hit him with a rock, the other luckily escaped with a black eye and minor
concussion from where they KICKED HIM IN THE HEAD after knocking him to the ground.
Find a way to blame that on the white Australians....
And being non-poor white kids isn't any excuse either. Hell, AT LEAST the aboriginals are a marginalized people. White australians on the other hand
are the dominant class, and they STILL are responsible for the vast majority of crimes committed in australia.
I never said it was an excuse. THere is NO excuse for that kind of crime. Aboriginal people however are responsible for more violent crime than any
The research centre also found that one in five assaults, one in three robberies, more than one in three homicides and about one in ten sexual
offences are inter-racial. About 93% of those involve Aboriginal offenders and non-Aboriginal victims.
If you could turn a lever and magically stop an equal number of either population from committing crimes, then, yeah, you'd get the most results out
of using it on the aborigines. Since there AREN'T magic anti-crime levers, you have to use actual solutions to crime. To correct the causes
for poorness and marginilization amoung the aborigines, would take great effort, but what's the white people's excuse in australia? You don't need
to make them 'not poor', you don't need to reform an entire system so that it doesn't discriminate against them, or overhaul and entire country so
treats them as full fledged equals. The easier way to reduce crime would be to deal with the whites, who've only taken a small 'push' to become
criminals, whereas the aborigines have been given a HUGE push over the edge.
So since the whites are creating the vast majority of the crimes in the country, and they're the committing crimes over practically nothing, it'd
make more sense to deal with them.
From reading what you just posted its pretty clear that you have little, if any experience with Australia and our indigenous population. THey are
given so much opportunity and so much assistance from the government which is paid for by the average white Australian through their taxes. These same
white Australians are then, assaulted, abused or have their property stolen by the same people who are receiving millions of dollars a year from
They have been treated BETTER than equal. They get many more opportunities than the average white australian. They even PAY them to go to
They can get FREE UNIVERSITY DEGREES!
They get given weekly welfare payments, arts grants, cultural studies grants the list goes on.
Now why I dont think we should stop supporting the aboriginal people (I for one think that free university degrees are a great idea) I would just like
them to wake up to the fact that they really do get a lot of opportunities and that I like the majority of white australians have NEVER done
anything wrong to them
and that without us Paying taxes (because the majority of Aboriginal's dont) they would not get a QUARTER of what they get
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