Great thread by the way, I've always been fond of that particular verse. Just want to point out that the verse is found in Luke 9:23
, in case
anyone is trying to find it.
The verse was the inspiration to put "Deny Thyself" in my avatar, since the full verse reads:
Luke 9:23 KJV, BibeGateway.com
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
The verse tells that to come after Jesus we must do three things:
- Deny Ourselves
- Take Up Our Cross
- Follow Christ
These are the three keys, or kayas
, as they're known in several forms of Buddhism. These keys have been taught in all of the world's great
religions, and their true significance has been esoterically passed down along the ages.
To deny one's self, is to go against one's own ego. It is to desintegrate, to transmute, to completely destroy one's selfish and egotistical
desires. Only by doing this can we become completely pure in mind and heart, and be worty to go in the way of Christ.
Taking Up Our Cross
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. - Matthew 5:48
Taking up our cross does not refer to enduring great sacrifice, but to the mystery of the Bridal Chamber, the ancient science of Alchemy, the White
Tantra of Tibetan Buddhists. The cross is formed when a man and a woman unite in the Sacred Sexual Act, allowing the man and the women to be born
To follow Christ is to sacrifice ourselves for humanity. To Christify ourselves and serve others unconditionally with love and compassion, just like
Jesus did. It is conscious suffering, suffering willfully endured to repay our karmic debt and alleviate the suffering of others.
I know this didn't really answer your question, but I wanted to give my two cents about the topic. Not here to argue, just to share my thoughts.
[edit on 7/1/2007 by AkashicWanderer]