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"The sad news is that there is no cure."

Sounds like another research project. Perhaps it's related to SARS?

Paranoia that's funny. But the facts speak for themselves our Government is trying to take our freedoms away. That's both parties. But Bush has done more towards that end then any other president. How can you honestly support a man that lied to get us into a war and we haven’t seen any of the spoils like our gas prices going down. Just more big government and huge spending deficits. Terrorism is not an excuse to take our freedoms either leaders through out history have used terrorism to strip it’s population of it’s freedoms hell Hitler even did it. That's what 9/11 was really about Bush knew and you know he knew.

[Edited on 5-12-2003 by DiRtYDeViL]

Well, first off, he didn't lie. Hussein had changed from hoarding Bio/Chem weapons (as far as we know. There are still thousands of rounds that are unmarked that have to be checked. As everyone knows, they were stockpiled that way so the enemy wouldn't be able to tell which is conventional and which is WMD) to J.I.T. manufacturing. Either way, the threat was there. It was foreign intel that linked Al Quaeda and Hussein for us, we didn't even find that to doctor it!
The only lie was the midstream noise of "Liberate Iraq! Help the Iraqis!" That propaganda pissed me off. I know, during wartime governments use all the PR crap to keep the populace on target, but it still made me mad. How can you "liberate" a group of people that won't even rise against the tyrant by themselves? They didn't lift a finger for liberation, they didn't fight for it, so they will not keep it in the long run.

No, Bush has not done more to destroy our liberties than any other president. Some of the worst E.O's was signed by Kennedy, then Clinton. The Patriot Act was the brainchild of Clinton, he just had no excuse to implement it. Don't get me wrong, Bush is not my hero at all, I just want the record straight is all.

Why do you expect the gas prices to go down? Do you think we should have a direct pipeline flowing from Iraq to the U.S. and her allies? WE aren't about stealing, come on! OPEC still controls the pertoleum prices with their illegal but tolerated cartel, so there's little we can do.

You know, as far as the conspiracy that Bush knew and/or participated in the 9/11 incident, put up or shut up. Where is anything resembling decent evidence.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Well, first off, he didn't lie. Hussein had changed from hoarding Bio/Chem weapons (as far as we know. There are still thousands of rounds that are unmarked that have to be checked. As everyone knows, they were stockpiled that way so the enemy wouldn't be able to tell which is conventional and which is WMD) to J.I.T. manufacturing. Either way, the threat was there.

None have been found in 1998 the inspectors said they got everything. Nothing has been found.

It was foreign intel that linked Al Quaeda and Hussein for us, we didn't even find that to doctor it!

You believe this seriously? Cheney hanging out at the CIA I mean common they where looking for a war.

The only lie was the midstream noise of "Liberate Iraq! Help the Iraqis!" That propaganda pissed me off. I know, during wartime governments use all the PR crap to keep the populace on target, but it still made me mad. How can you "liberate" a group of people that won't even rise against the tyrant by themselves? They didn't lift a finger for liberation, they didn't fight for it, so they will not keep it in the long run.

Agree. I was only mad about the bs about them accepting us with flowers that really made me mad I hate PR and psyops.

No, Bush has not done more to destroy our liberties than any other president. Some of the worst E.O's was signed by Kennedy, then Clinton. The Patriot Act was the brainchild of Clinton, he just had no excuse to implement it. Don't get me wrong, Bush is not my hero at all, I just want the record straight is all.

Maybe so I think Clinton and all of them work for the same goals. All of our modern presdients are pathetic.

Why do you expect the gas prices to go down? Do you think we should have a direct pipeline flowing from Iraq to the U.S. and her allies? WE aren't about stealing, come on!

Not a pipeline but we did conquor the country dammit with my tax dollars it's our land our oil paid with lies,blood and dollars we should all benefit only us and a small amount to England. It's not stealing we won it fair and square!

OPEC still controls the pertoleum prices with their illegal but tolerated cartel, so there's little we can do.

This is the reason why would should have invaded Iraq and been honest about it. Conqour lands and take there resources when we are done they can have it back.

You know, as far as the conspiracy that Bush knew and/or participated in the 9/11 incident, put up or shut up. Where is anything resembling decent evidence.

Put up or shut up? Sorry can't who benefited? Also the project for a new american century even said they needed a new perl harbor to implement the plan. 9/11 was the perl harbor. But it didn't need to happen we just need to be honest to our citizens the world is running out of oil we have to protect it to save our way of life. If we don't lights out. Cars dry. People will understand.

Woa there, wild bull! We do not conquor lands, rape them of their natural resources and then set them free! That just isn't us. Our problem was with Hussein and his henchmen, not the people of Iraq, no matter how un-Revolutionary they might be. I would like to think if the government did just what you suggest, the good people of the U.S. would take issue with it. Yeah, I know, 401(k)'s and cable TV, after that we aren't very attentive. But maybe somehow people would hear about it and at least e-mail their congressman.

As a matter of fact, the inspectors did not say they got all of the chem/bio agents. I was following it pretty well, and that was never said. As a matterof fact, Scott wassisname was singing a very different tune than what he was singing just before the war. I don't know, but I suspect money can cause a man to learn a new song. Hans Blix has been the only one to hold such an anti-historical position, and anyone who has been conscious the last 20 years knows he has an agenda.

As far as your disdain for PR and psyops, get past it. It is used by everyone, in every age, and that won't change. Just recognize it and drive on. Elsewise, you'll get a bleeding ulcer and die, and we'll lose a great poster. None of us need that.

You ask who benefited? Do you realize you can write a conspiracy theory for any event in history? Yeah, I'm aware that there really are conspiracies and that there are bad people and agendas out there, but the reverse engineering of this conspiracy is just too convenient. This isn't the first attack against us by any means, this is just the first time our government couldn't bury its head in the sand.

As far as all the politicians and parties having the same goal, and being controlled by the same puppet master, I am absolutely in agreement with you. Which party is in power depends on whether or not the population is about to choke on the democratic fast track to ruination. Funny thing about it is, this guy we have now sounds like a conservative but is spending like a democrat. I wonder if the close-cut election told "them" they could start melting the two parties together?

Well Terrorism has been used as a tool for the whole history of man kind that's why I think Bush did it. In fact I call him Nero. But you did bring up an excellent point.

Funny thing about it is, this guy we have now sounds like a conservative but is spending like a democrat. I wonder if the close-cut election told "them" they could start melting the two parties together?

It sure looks like it I agree 100%. I don't mind welfare if it's used as a temp solution. I think we should have socialism in some things such as health care. The idea of Drug companies making products that actually cure something like cancer or aids wouldn't really benefit them but making expensive treatments would. Plus everyone is so sue happy about the stupidest #. I take issue with Democrats over gun rights I believe strongly in the second amendment as with everyone part of the Bill of Right none of them should be changed or even tampered with. Republicans I take issue with spending my children’s tax dollars while cutting taxes cut the dam spending start with the military. Don't arm Israel let them fight it out if they win great if they don't oh well. But let them settle it we don't need to be involved. If it's about oil we can just take what we need anyway. I take issue with both parties for not protecting our way of life Free trade is truly a race to the bottom. I don't know what political party I should belong to neither one of them are what I believe.

This is a mental disease that everyone should have. Everybody should be paranoid about this idiot being in charge of the most dangerous and powerful country in the world. We are heading for some serious problems if he stays in power. We should all be paranoid.. . . . . . . . . .

[Edited on 6-12-2003 by Thomas Crowne]