Why have we not gone back to MOON since we landed on it?

Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Who says we ever went to the Moon in the first place!
India is planing a moon mission.
Dont ask me why, A bunch of curry filled Hindus up in space

Deep

Zero, do you see a problem with that post? "...curry-filled Hindus"...unacceptable.

I was quite confident that we DID visit the moon, untill i started visting ATS. Then a friend sent me a great interview with Bill Kaysing from Nardwuar.com explaining his theories for not being able to do some of the things they did.Supposedly the Radiation alone would have melted the film in their cameras. As well as the fact that there was no Crater burnt out from beneath the landing crafts jets. He used to work with propulsion, so i he might have some good points.

nardwuar.com...

If anyone doesnt know who nardwuar the human serviette is, be forewarned, he sounds odd, but hes a pretty smart guy. Check it out, its about an hour long, so be prepared for a sitdown.

I was quite confident that we DID visit the moon, untill i started visting ATS. Then a friend sent me a great interview with Bill Kaysing from Nardwuar.com explaining his theories for not being able to do some of the things they did.Supposedly the Radiation alone would have melted the film in their cameras. As well as the fact that there was no Crater burnt out from beneath the landing crafts jets. He used to work with propulsion, so i he might have some good points.

No..no...no...

Read here:

liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov...

This should clear it up for you....

The reason why we have not went back to the moon is because somebody is already there doing things. I believe what my unlce, who actually worked for NASA, told me before he died is that there is some kind of base on the moon that is being used to extract resources for energy and Also keep an eye on us at earth. Astronauts were upducted and given a message not to go back there. We all didn't believe this of course we were kids and thought he was just making up a scary story, but now I have heard others say the same thing, so I believe it now. I just wish I would have taken him a lil more seriously and showed more interest in what he was talking about.

People decided that their money would be better spent on other things. I don't agree with this myself personally as the benefits of space exploration far outweigh the initial costs but majority rules!

If someone tells you that NASA astronauts did not land on the moon just smile and back away slowly. Make no sudden movements.

Seriously though this argument should just not be happening. It is not possible for a conspiracy theory to be any more debunked than that one. I am happy that the vast majority of posters on this thread appear rational.

There is two simple reason we have not been back to the moon. Money and risk. The whole enterprise was ludicrously dangerous and expensive the first time around. It would now be slightly less dangerous but even more expensive.

There is no substitute for having a man "on the ground". That's why we should already be on Mars but the human race has turned into a bunch of p**ssys IMHO.

But I accept that the marginal knowledge to be gained by manned missions to the moon that could not be gathered by modern probes and robots does make it an unreasonable risk.

Originally posted by TheWorldReallyIsThatBorin
There is two simple reason we have not been back to the moon. Money and risk. The whole enterprise was ludicrously dangerous and expensive the first time around. It would now be slightly less dangerous but even more expensive.

If money is an issue, then why have they sent billions of dollars worth of Rover's and more satellites to mars?
And if it's so dangerous, send a damn rover to the moon.

It is very expensive to send rovers. So the perceived value of information that they could bring back from the Moon is just not worth it. Basically we know so much about the moon that there is almost nothing left to find out. (I said "almost", I'm sure there is something of scientific value and we will go back in the future.)

Mars on the other hand is a whole different story. Any scientific information from an expedition there is far more valuable. Bang for bucks so to speak.

Three things really....

1. Cost - It is far more expensive to send a manned mission than an unmanned one. Unmanned missions don't require food, waste, oxygen, additional fuel to then lift all of this, and of course the training involved. There was a major shift to unmanned exploration (more bang for the buck)

2. Risk - Remember Apollo 13? Challenger? Lose an unmanned probe, it might set you back a couple months...lose flesh and blood, and you could be shut down for years.

3. Technology - Unmanned missions can now do many functions previously requiring live astronauts. With today's tech, we can accomplish the same results, without the added risk/cost of manned missions.

That's not to say we won't see manned expeditions to new frontiers like Mars...but there really isn't a NEED for more manned expeditions to the moon, unless they're looking to do some major base construction for future launches, etc. (and that's likely a ways off)....

We never went to the moon.

Last I knew a couple years ago NASA was trying to send unmanned craft there to find out about the radiation, preliminary stuff, so they could maybe send something there in 2020.

It was a huge hoax, shot at Disney Studios.

Why? Bart Sibrel says it was to win the Cold War with Russia. I say no. I agree with Bill Cooper who says it was done, with knowledge and blessing of Russia, to convince the masses that space travel is possible.

Then they are going to spring a fake alien invasion on is and we will believe it, having fallen for the fake moon landings.

We have very advanced spacecraft right here on earth, all kept in underground military bases, antigravity things, all kinds of high tech stuff. There are also creatures that have been bred in macabre breeding experiments, including the grays and some other creatures. They are mixing animal, insect, human and demon genetics to create pathetic creatures, also cyborgs. Additionally, there are actual horrid nightmare creatures, demons, who do live far beneath the earth, and when the time is right they will be brought topside.

The fake alien invasion will be for the purpose of uniting the world in world government.

Originally posted by Salt of the Earth

We have very advanced spacecraft right here on earth, all kept in underground military bases, antigravity things, all kinds of high tech stuff. There are also creatures that have been bred in macabre breeding experiments, including the grays and some other creatures. They are mixing animal, insect, human and demon genetics to create pathetic creatures, also cyborgs. Additionally, there are actual horrid nightmare creatures, demons, who do live far beneath the earth, and when the time is right they will be brought topside.

The fake alien invasion will be for the purpose of uniting the world in world government.

lmao have you been playing too much Doom?

I would love for you to produce any kind of evidence to support the theory that the govt,any govt are creating "pathetic" nightmare creatures and genetically modified demons.

let me guess youve got an Uncle/Aunt/cousin/informant in the CIA blah blah blah

this is why i love ATS

Yes, it is verx expensive to land on the Moon again. However,
if U.S didn't invade Iraq and spend all his money to a nonsense war, they could build a solid base on the moon, with a living environment.

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Imagine what could have been achieved if even a mere fraction of the money spent on arms were spent on space exploration...... although the two often go hand in hand i guess.

Have you ever Googled "Phil Schneider?"

There are videos on-line of his talks he used to give before he was murdered.

He was an engineer hired by the government to help bore out the deep tunnels for underground cities and military bases. Go check out his story on-line and take it from there. Phil Schneider calls them "aliens" but he has no way of knowing where they came from.

The abductions are real, but they are not creatures from outer space. They are creatures who live right here on earth, products of breeding experiments.

Google Tesla also. The demons are helping the Shadow Government to develop technology. In addition, whenever technology is developed "topside" it is squelched, either the rights are bought up and never developed or the inventor is murdered.

The underground cities are said to be connected by tunnels with trains that can travel 4,000 MPH or some incredible speed, faster than a jet. They don't use oil for fuel, but can power a whole city on a cup of water. When the government pulls of the fake alien invasion, they will offer us this technology (technology they had at their disposal all along) as being a gift from the Masters, or the supposed aliens, if we will go along with the New World Order.

Free energy and a bunch of high tech gadgets if we take the mark and worship the antichrist.

Go study up on this. I've read so much here and there I don't know where to start. Just Google. Type in "underground cities" -- Nazi breeding experiments, chimera, words like that.

I think the fake alien invasion is going to be attempted quite soon because of all the "respectability" the UFO stuff is getting on TV lately, and how they are tring to pass off the government's spy blimps as UFOs of aliens on the news.

A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.

Names or it didn't happen.

According to hitherto unconfirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969.

Unconfirmed? no realllllly?

I would not be surprised if they did see UFOs, even though they never left earth's orbit.

UFOs are everywhere to be seen, and mostly they are demons manifesting. Sometimes they are bona fide spacecraft made by the black ops miliary right here on earth, and since the moon landing caper was a big black ops hoax from the beginning, why not have some of their spacecraft tagging along for the ride?

Not to mention all the astroNOTS are big liars and scammers and Freemasons who cooperated in the caper that hoaxed the entire planet into thinking interplanetary travel is possible. (it's not)

This way when the Satanists get ready to foist their fake alien invasion on us in order to "unify" the planet we will believe it's all true, especially after all these years of Stanley Kubrick and Star Wars, Captain Kirk, etcetera.

BTW, has anybody taken a close look at that hokey moon lander? I'm surprised after all these years that anybody takes the moon landings seriously. What a total joke to think anybody would attempt to land on the moon in a contraption like that, or land anyplace else for that matter, even in a soft bed of flowers from 10 feet.

If I knew how to post up images, I'd put it up here now. I'm still trying to figure this board out.

The original design for the LEM was an open cage of metal framework.

American astronauts are a group of true hero's who volunteered and competed for the chance even at the risk of death. Even though the cold war is what motivated the US to put men on the moon that still doesn't take anything away from these guys. As James Olberg so eloquently stated...these comments equate to cultural vandalism. Just my opinion.

I mean seriously...how many of us on this site are experienced test pilots? How many people here have any real experience with experimental aircraft? I watched the Moon conspiracy show again this weekend for the umpteenth time and who does the moon landing debunking? A man with a leaf blower and a rubber glove in a vacuum chamber and another guy who lives in the desert and runs a "cat sanctuary".

Please.

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It does not matter if they were test pilots or so brave to orbit the earth.

Lots of people are test pilots and brave people.

The point is, they are occultics, Luciferians all of them -- they all are Freemasons, every last one of them.

And they LIED. They cooperated in a huge scam to convince the world that Captain Kirk and the Starship Enterprise are just around the corner, that anybody can hop in a little space module, pack up your moon lander and moon rover, and off we go to the moon.

They capitalized on people's patriotism and belief in their leaders, to lie. They have lived a lie their whole lives, which is why they are now some of them alcoholics and insane and eaten up with guilt. People like Buzz Aldrin have no conscience.

They are the lowest of the low, and they know it. If they were true heros, they would act like heros. Instead, they are recluses and hiding their faces in shame, or else they are drunks like Buzz Aldrin.

All these people deserve to be exposed, need to be exposed, the wizards behind the curtain exposed for their illusions and lies and fakery, their 9/11s and all the other scams they pull on us in order to steal our money, our time, and our lives, even our souls if they can get them and they want those too.

Down with the NWO and all liars and control freaks.

I almost shot coffee out of my nose on that one lol

Well done.

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