Man vs Wild /Real or Real Fake?

If you notice there have been some small edits in the Man vs Wild episodes.

Like when he found the dead deer he said a farmer left it for him. He didn't say that when the episode first ran.

He also said some fish were brought in to a part of a creek for him to show you how to catch. And in one of the episodes last night when a boat came to save him he said the boat was sent to save him. When it first ran he just said it was passing by.

I guess they realize people were on to them.

If the show would have been honest about these things in the first place it wouldn't have been a big deal. The fact that they tried to lie is what gets me. The show could have really been something its a shame.

LOL .. i havent watched survivalman recently but as well is on the TV is SHOW like man vs. wild. You can check in the dictionary what is SHOW? U all insult Bear Grylls..but
the show is entertaining and have some very useful and interesting tips..Crew maybe help him a couple of times but.. ffs i mean the things he does are very dangerous and can cause death..and this is for safety..(u want he die for you..)-This isnt one episode..Plus he pass the hardest way only to show how..Even an idiot will choose the easier way if there are 2.
about the diving - he is not amateur and can see sometimes if its deep or not.. btw there was an episode where he showed how to measure.. (with stone and rope (from leaves)) but noone is perfect.. even he injured his leg.. so he said a tip to reduce the pain - keep the legs together..
or about the episode when he was in an iceland OF COURSE it was boat from the show.. u want him to rot in an iceland ? we all understand that u cant always be rescue..u said he always make it omg.. just when he cant the episode is not published..there are episodes where he makes it !.. what show will be to watch how he doesnt make it..after all.. both survivalman and man vs. wild are SHOWs
Les is an musician and movie maker.. Bear Grylls is a SAS soldier..

[edit on 18-12-2007 by infam0us]

I think its part real and part fake...
real are the locations and habitates... and some of the things they do

I think its part real and part fake...
real are the locations and habitates... and some of the things they do

i have watched both shows and I have recently noticed Bear in some magazines(i meant my girlfriends magazines!), i wondered why the Survivorman guy is not in some of these? he is the legit survivor specialist and he is not getting any notiriaty he deserves.

I like both of the shows though I enjoy the energy and optimism of Bear better
Les Stroud bored my wife to death and I have to admit that he is a bit boring and I could really do with out the harmonica not that I don't like the harmonica just that I could do without it on the show lol don't know why...

All in all they are both accomplished men and the tasks they are performing are not trivial in the least with or without help.. and while Bear reminds me of more of a thrill seeker Les is more down to earth in his telling how to survive it's the little bits of information like how breaking wood with your hands and feet can be dangerous in a survival situation in that cuts scrapes bumps and bruises add up fast when you need to be able to do everything by yourself...

Respectfully

GEO

Bear's new episodes are in two sections now. I like the old shows better. Splitting the show up into two parts is cheesy. I'm not sure what the thought process was for that.

If my plane crashed over the jungle, or anywhere for that matter, I'd take a more calm and collected guy such as Ray Mears or Les Stroud over the irrational and energy-wasting Bear Grylls.

If my plane crashed over the jungle, or anywhere for that matter, I'd take a more calm and collected guy such as Ray Mears or Les Stroud over the irrational and energy-wasting Bear Grylls.

Brian Horner
President/Chief Instructor, LTR Training Systems


Brian Horner

• USAF Survival, Escape, and Evasion Specialist, 13 years
• USAF, Resistance/Interrogation Instructor
• US Army, Desert Survival Instructor, 5th Group,Special Forces
• US Army Parachutist
• EMT I, CPR Instructor
• NASAR Wilderness EMT - Instructor
• Swiftwater Rescue Technician Instructor
• NFPA Certified Professional Rescue Technician - Structural, Confined Space
• Certified Lifeguard
• NAUI Certified Scuba Instructor
• PADI Certified Master Scuba Diver, Dive Master
• University of Alaska, Wilderness Studies Survival Instructor
• US Department of Interior, Aircraft Immersion/Survival Instructor
• Team Member, Alaska Mountain Rescue Group
• Faculty, Wilderness Medical Society Staff
• Tyumen Medical Conference, Nadym Russia
• 1993 Mt. Vaughan Antarctic Expedition, 1993-1994
• Mountain Guide, Chachapoya, Peru 1997
If anybody out there would really like to learn how to survive please contact www.survivaltraining.com, Brian is brother in-law and he prefer,s Bear over Les, stay alive

Originally posted by LDragonFire
Ask any WWII or Vietnam vet or about Trench Foot

Trench foot occurs when feet are cold and damp while wearing constricting footwear. Unlike frostbite, trench foot does not require freezing temperatures and can occur in temperatures up to 60° Fahrenheit (about 16° Celsius). Trench foot can occur with only twelve hours of exposure. When affected by trench foot, the feet become numb, followed by a change in color to red or blue. As the condition worsens, the feet may swell. Advanced trench foot often involves blisters and open sores, which lead to fungal infections. In such cases trench foot is also known as "jungle rot". If left untreated, trench foot usually results in gangrene and then requires amputation. If treated properly and quickly, complete recovery is normal, but recovery is marked by severe short-term pain as feeling returns.

There is also a fungus affecting gulf war vets but I haven't found a link, its similar to trench foot but there is no cure, a Dude I work with, a Iraqi war vet has it, I'll get more info when I see him.

This is dead on True. Once it comes on you are in serious trouble. The historical cure since the Greeks and the Romans has been acetic acid either as natural vinegar or concentrated vinegar, which is hard to come by in the wild. In those time great care was taken to make sure vinegar was available and all unused wine was returned to the vinegar mother to make more.

Red wine is the easiest to use to capture a culture. Don't even bother with white. Wine must be natural with no excess sulphites added for cellaring. Keep it open and warm around 75 degrees F and a culture will form. care must be taken not to kill the mother or siphon it off without cloth filtering. A crust of mold will form on the top of the container and this can be carefully scooped out and thrown away. You will be able to smell the vinegar as it forms and know you have captured an airborne culture. If you wish to make it for food use its best to buy a proven strain mother from a wine shop.

Bear is the man, That other guy bores me. Bears training teaches him to get out of trouble as fast as possible. The longer your exposed to the elements the more drained you become. Find water, Food and get out, Not stay and camp and bore me to death. Its a TV show and the producers do what they want with it. If Bear did something wrong then his boys would be calling him out. Les is not wrong in what he does but he would be getting ate by bugs while bear beats him out of the situation by two days.
I want to see Bear hunt Mr. May on special forces manhunt. I love that show. May had to be saved from the Siberian blizzard and thats probably the only situation the S.A.S guys cant survive. Les is more informative but Bear is a machine and I love his show.

I like Les, but sometimes he a bit moronic. I saw one episode where he was stranded in Alaska. He built a debris shelter, then lit a fire under the overhanging eaves. Naturally it burst into flames..

Les also starves on most of his trips. He typically subsists on baby frogs, weeds, and a few bugs at most. His caloric intake is so low, he stumbles about most of the time from sheer exhaustion. I think I could even do better.

In a real survival situation, I'd prefer Bear to Les anyday!

[edit on 5/27/08 by LLoyd45]

reply to post by Nygdan


i agree suvivor man is more realistic but by any means man vs wild does have some good tecnics but overal i'll listen to suvivor man more!!!!

reply to post by LLoyd45

Les is representative of the way most people will survive. Its a good thing he does show it that way because then people get a clue what its really like.

Survival is not glamor and adventure like bear shows. its real its dirty and its hard. most people have no clue Les gives them a clue.

I am not saying bear is not gutsy or skilled. I am saying that his show is bad for the survival community. Even if I was able to look past the lies he told in the beginning. I cant look past the constant showing of the breaking of the basic survival rules.



[edit on 6-6-2008 by angryamerican]

this matter must be disguest and I for one feel ablied to support your understanding

this matter must be disguest and I for one feel ablied to support your understanding