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America's Remedy, for this extreme problem.

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posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 09:45 PM
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The only way for America to gain back its credibility, and respect.
Is to try the criminals in power, condemn and prosecute them for the lies they’ve told, the country they've destroyed and the people they've killed...

hoping.. PREYING... that the rest of the world will understand its not the USA committing these crimes.. its a handful of people who obtained power.

You need to declare to the world -

" THESE MEN DO NOT REPRESENT THE UNITED STATES "

This is the ONLY WAY, America will win in this current dilemma.

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

Ever read the above document?
Ever sat and pondered just what the intentions were of the people whom WROTE this document? calling for a USA global DOMINANCE?
Ever wonder why a fair chunk of the people in today’s government, happened to be 'architects' of the above document!

The above report was released in 2000, clearly outlining the views, and goals of the American NEOCONS prior to Sept11,
The below, shows how that manipulated the INTELLEGENCE they had on sept11, to enforce this new policy.

A policy for an American, dominated Region.

politics.guardian.co.uk...

the US knew in advance about the September 11 attack on New York but, for strategic reasons, chose not to act on the warnings.


BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11

news.bbc.co.uk...

that planning began "within weeks" of Bush's first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US.


www.russbaker.com...

He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999



‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”



that President Bush was planning to invade Iraq before the September 11th attacks and was considering two very different plans about what to do with Iraq's oil.

www.democracynow.org.../03/21/1455245

www.truthout.org...

The NSA's vast data-mining activities began shortly after Bush was sworn in as president and the document contradicts his assertion that the 9/11 attacks prompted him to take the unprecedented step of signing a secret executive order authorizing the NSA to monitor a select number of American citizens thought to have ties to terrorist groups.


The above demonstrates that plans were already being considered to invade, and occupy gulf states by the American government,

BEFORE September 11.

This was outlined primarily for the 'American Defenses ' document above
www.informationclearinghouse.info...

These stated objectives were put forward to Clinton in 1999, he refused to acknowledge them, and was ridiculed within for his lack of heavy handed moves.

Why do you think Monica Lewinski was major headlines news?
Why do you think the government jumped up and down so hard when he mistakenly bombed a factory in sudan?
The internal government Needed Clinton publicly diminished, if they had any chance of securing a man in the Whitehouse who would continue their stated goals.

Dont believe me?
Why would a man be impeached for lying about sex, yet a man can be praised for lying about a war that has killed hundreds of thousands.

ANYWAY.............

In 2000, George Bush was given the Presidency of the UNITED STATES.
At this time he already planned to go into IRAQ.
He already had the right men in the right positions to GET INTO IRAQ.
He simply needed a reason for the public to follow.

Imagine the delight on the governments faces when they learned of the following

www.inthesetimes.com...

"CBS reporter David Martin revealed that weeks before the attacks, the CIA had warned Bush personally of Osama Bin Laden’s intent to use hijacked planes as missiles. That followed the damaging exposure by The Associated Press’s John Solomon of a pre-9/11 FBI memo from an officer in Phoenix warning of suspicious Middle Eastern men training at flight schools—a warning that went unheeded."


www.wanttoknow.info...


June-Aug 2001:
-German intelligence warns the CIA that Middle Eastern terrorists are training for hijackings and targeting American interests.
-Russian President Vladimir Putin alerts the US of suicide pilots training for attacks on US targets.
-In late July, a Taliban emissary warns the US that bin Laden is planning a huge attack on American soil.
-In August, Israel warns of an imminent Al Qaeda attack




Aug 6, 2001: President Bush receives an intelligence briefing warning that bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial airliners. Titled “Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US,” the briefing specifically mentions the WTC. Yet Bush later claims it “said nothing about an attack on America.”

Aug 27, 2001: An FBI supervisor says he’s trying to keep a hijacker from “flying a plane into the WTC.” Headquarters chastises him for notifying the CIA.

Sep 10, 2001: A number of top Pentagon brass suddenly cancel travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns. Why isn't this news spread widely?


WOW, imagine his thoughts when he heard all this
The luck that Arab fundamentalists were going to attack the USA, was like a winning lotto ticket. IT would give them all the necessary public support to wage their war to initiate the goals setout in the 2000 document.
It was almost to good to be true for GW, Cheney and Co.

All they had to do, was ensure the agencies BELOW THEM, didn’t get to patriotic, and start investigating strange Arab irregularities within their security net.

And respected people who try to give the truth to the world?


McKinney asked "What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11th? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? . . . What do they have to hide?"


The WHITEHOUSE response


"The American people know the facts, and they dismiss such ludicrous, baseless views"


"The fact that she questions the president's legitimacy shows a partisan mind-set beyond all reason"


"She Seems to have tapped into a web of conspiracy theories"


"paranoid, America-hating, crypto-Marxist conspiratorial delusions"


Why was the Whitehouse so quick to jump up and down, attempting to public ally shame this person for asking her justified questions....when all along, they knew she was telling the truth?


Barely one month after McKinney was so condemned, the headline of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution read: "Bush warned by

U.S. intelligence before 9/11 of possible bin Laden plot to hijack planes." The Washington Post front page announced: "Bush Was Told of Hijacking Dangers." The Fox News Channel was repeating the big story of the day: "Bush Was Warned of Hijack Plot."


ONE MONTH AFTER THEY ACCUSED HER OF BEING A CONSPIRACY NUT, IT CAME CLEAN, SHE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!
IS THIS A GOVERNMENT OF HONESTY?

CLEARLY,

The United States Government,
The GOVERNMENT that was selected in 2000

1. Had Plans to invade and setup in IRAQ in 2000
2. Learned of the plans for Arabs to attack
3. Allowed this attack to happen, paving the road for their insertion into the region
4. Stated a FALSE LINK between the atrocities 'supposedly' committed by surprise, and their intended target.



More generally, in the lead-up to the war in Iraq, the administration encouraged the false impression that Saddam had a role in 9/11. Bush never stated then, as he does now, that Iraq had “nothing” to do with 9/11. Only after the Iraq war began did Bush candidly acknowledge that Iraq was not operationally linked to 9/11.

thinkprogress.org...

And now look where we are......

But how did we get to this point.
How were you, the good citizens of the United States, duped into following a murderous corporately influenced lunatic??


August 26, 2002
-“we now know that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons…. Many of us are convinced that Saddam will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon" - D. Cheney
- "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." - D. Cheney
January 29, 2003:
-“recently was discovered seeking significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” - D. Rummsfield
January 09, 2003:
-"We know for a fact that there are weapons there." - Ari Fleischer
February 08, 2003:
-"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have." - GW Bush

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised. G.W Bush.

Easy, you were lied to... plain and simple.

Me, Id be absolutely furious, up in arms if my son or daughter was in another country fighting a war so clearly setup, manipulated and forced onto the American public.

Wonder how the mother of an Iraqi son feels... having her son shot to death in the streets for defending his home against an occupier that OBVIOUSLLY turned out to be lying about its 'just' intentions. Or maybe the young Iraqi males locked up in prisons, accused of being terrorists.. Again because they chose to DEFEND THEIR homeland against a foreign invader.




posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 09:45 PM
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And now you’re losing your constitution? You’re having your rights slowly stripped away, because the government 'tells you' your in danger and need securing....

What exactly is the danger at your door?
What is more dangerous in America right now, than its own government?
Unfortunately, your president under estimated the pride and love a people have for their homeland.

Thanks to your president, and all his 'good' men..

Your country has totally ruined another sovereign country.
You’ve ignited a dormant civil war, that will engulf the entire region.
You’ve lost 3000 troops
You’ve lost the respect of the worlds people/nations
You’ve lost your stable and positive Economy
And you’ve lost all credibility.


HANG THE MAN WHO SENDS HIS TROOPS TO WAR, IF ONLY TO MAKE A PROFIT!
HANG THE MAN WHO SENDS HIS TROOPS TO WAR, IF ONLY TO MAKE A PROFIT!
HANG THE MAN WHO SENDS HIS TROOPS TO WAR, IF ONLY TO MAKE A PROFIT!

The only option for AMERICANS

Is to remove this current regime, put the blame SQUARLEY AT THEIR FEET
AND TRIAL THEM, and HANG THEM to show the world that these men DO NOT REPRESENT THE UNITED STATES PEOPLE.
And that once THESE MEN ARE GONE, THE USA WILL ENDEVOUR TO BECOME THE NATION IT ONCE WAS.






[edit on 29-11-2006 by Agit8dChop]



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 09:51 PM
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Wow, you ARE agitated.

Is this retro-active?
Or only for the current administration?

The US has not been "loved" for quite a while now..How far back do we go to prosecute
those who are only looking out for their own "interests".



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 09:55 PM
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Obviously, only to the people who have done to this world the irepairable damage that has occured in Iraq.

Clinton didnt LIE, he didnt allow terrorists to attack his own country men just so his friends could get their dream of an iraqi base.

For all his faults, he tried to do what was best for the people.

GWBush has only done what benefits his government.

The people are meaningless....

Well atleast the living.

3000 dead americans seem to of done more for bush and his admin, than 300 million LIVING can for peace and harmony in the USA.

[edit on 29-11-2006 by Agit8dChop]



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt
Wow, you ARE agitated.

Is this retro-active?
Or only for the current administration?

The US has not been "loved" for quite a while now..How far back do we go to prosecute
those who are only looking out for their own "interests".



We dont have to make anything retro-active for change to start. Change starts now in the present, not the past. We dont go back to prosecute, we take back the republic from the recorporate nd once again have a country for the people by the people, instead of for the corporate by the corporate.

We have to do this now. For our jobs, for who we want ourselves to be and to show the world the American people are still the most brave and virtuous people of the world.

May God bless America and shine light on us once again.



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 10:45 PM
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I don't know. I believe its long past the point of letting the U.S. public be considered innocent due to the machinations of their rulers. If they haven't wised up by now they never will.



posted on Nov, 30 2006 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
f Ever read the above document?
Ever sat and pondered just what the intentions were of the people whom WROTE this document? calling for a USA global DOMINANCE?
Ever wonder why a fair chunk of the people in today’s government, happened to be 'architects' of the above document!



You know what this means right. It doesnt mean that we invade every country and take over. It simply means we move to maintain our military advantage for the future. If there was no US, do you think South Korea would be independent? If there was no US do you think Taiwan would still be independent? I'm not saying that US military dominance is a good or a bad thing, but if you were on top of the world militarily, politically, and economically wouldnt you want to stay there?

Oh, and I have read the document before, interstiing read on plans to maintain that dominance, and it makes perfect sense.

[edit on 11/30/2006 by ludaChris]



posted on Nov, 30 2006 @ 10:58 PM
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I agree,

but invading, occupying and lying arent some of they key characteristics to keep the world on your side 'allowing' you to be number 1.



posted on Nov, 30 2006 @ 11:21 PM
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"The White House has repeatedly denied accusations made by several top foreign officials that it manipulated intelligence

estimates to justify an invasion of Iraq."

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

So Foreign governments now also believe the USA Fixed the facts to support their invasion. Obviously, foreign officials much like foreign citizens can see the truth a little easier.

The US May control media inside its country, but foreign media still have the chance to get the truth, and present their understanding of americas lies.

I believe most countries knew this... most countries had dealings with IRAQ.. much like halliburton did.. so everyone knew the scope of Saddams WMD's.. meaning NIL!

No one was willing to confront and cause a major conflict with the USA over it.. It just wasnt worth it, look at the comments released about France (ie freedom fries )
Keeping America on your side atleast materialisitcally, is a lot better than having saddam in power supporting kickbacks.

So they'll allow america to lie and go into IRAQ if it so desires.

But thats where it stops,

The world has lost all faith and confidence in the US now, and will not be sitting idly by as the us focuses on other nations. Much like you all believe is happening to Iran.

Americans, How does it feel to have that respectable, credible, honest, helpful, merciful, liberating status throw away by a few mens overwealming greed?

The World loved you, welcomed you with open arms...

In the 90's.. you think of America..
you think of Clinton.. you think of ham burgers, sports, smart and strong citizens.

Now you think of America.
You think of bush, cheney, Iraq, curroption, GREED, war mongering..........

Wow.. and to think... it only took 6 years to lose something it took DECADES To gain.

Wonder how long it'll take to remove that multi-trillion dollar debt you've racked up...


Thankgod the american government can rely on your CHILDERENS hard work and sweat to pay off the bill for their corporations profits



[edit on 30-11-2006 by Agit8dChop]



posted on Nov, 30 2006 @ 11:38 PM
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Agit8d... what I wonder is have you considered the possibility that the whole thing is a sham?

More and more I'm thinking that government is only the front man for corporate interests and big money. Corporations have grown so large that they litterally have the clout to dictate policy. That's a fact. Governments have no real recource. If they impose sactions or restrictions on corporations, they are going to lose amazing amounts of money in very short order.

While this is likely worst in the US, I can see this becoming more and more invasive into British and Canadian government as well. Fortunatly, we (canucks) are a little more insulated from corporate control thanks to a lack of integral parties and tighter restrictions all-round, yet I still see it creeping in more and more.

The US in a worst case since it's basicly only a two party system with both parties getting money from the same corporate backers. Of cource, if the general public was to wake up to this state of affairs all hell would break loose. SO... you keep them confused by partisan politics. Pick a side and yell at the otherone while we steal your rights, your lives, and your country.

Simply put; I have no faith in the system.



posted on Nov, 30 2006 @ 11:49 PM
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I 100% agree..

Corporations have become the most powerful entity in the American system.
They effecitvley control the man in the hot seat, either through contributions, foreign ties, domestic assets etc etc...

Its just amazing that a man who is so inter-connected to these corporations... to the people that make profits from war through business....

decided to PUT HIMSELF into the vice presidential position.

That should of made some major red-flags stand high at attention..


You only need to follow the money,
And There's a lot of money being made out of this adventure, at the expense of innocent lives.



posted on Dec, 3 2006 @ 11:13 AM
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The only way for America to gain back its credibility and respect is if a meteor falls from outter space and wipes the country off the face of the earth.



posted on Dec, 4 2006 @ 08:40 AM
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There's to many good hearted americans for that.

Now if you had of said on the whitehouse, while all office aides and such were away, and merely the higher 'heirachy' were in.. I might of agreed.

What america needs to do is break that barrier around the president called 'ignorant -deniability'

For every question he is asked, all he has to say is

the same parrot words

'' demcratic society ''
'' alqaeda ''
'' terrorists ''
'' saddam ''
'' citizens ''
'' free ''

it wont matter how obvious anything is...
because if thats the message, the 'president' puts out..
The world has no ability to question it.

America has to much grip on world economics, trade, oil rah rah rah...
Most countries dont dare accuse the USA of anything accept making mistakes..

Imagine the reprecussions for Australian Trade and econmics should we declare the american governemnt war criminals, and war mongerers?

America knows unless something is revealed from deep inside the governemnt..
the world has no choice but to shovel the bs the us is serving up.

And its not like the US is going to come out and say whats really going on, is it.


If you get the chance, next time bush is giving a conference on tV, being questioned by reporters..
turn the volume off......

look at his facial expressions, and his manour when he answers questions...

you cant lie through your appearence.



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