posted by Maverickhunter
Even though I am an atheist it appears the founding fathers of our country were originally Christan so they would want to uphold their Christan
beliefs . . So the government officials and or future government officials who run for office have to take into account the amount of Christians in
the world . . but if you are a Christan and if you are voting you would want the one who best represents Christianity. . . you should vote for the
person who knows all three religions . . the one person who knows all three religions well probably has a good understanding of religion. That being
said, religion plays a huge part in politics . . if you weren’t religious if you ran for the government the great society of America probably would
have not existed. [Edited by Don W]
Not so. The Founding Fathers - FFs - practiced an entirely different kind of religion than what passes for Christianity today. Only one signer of the
July 4 Declaration was a minister of the Gospel. John Witherspoon of New Jersey. OTOH, 13 were Masons. Back then, religion was corporate, today it is
individualistic. You need a born again experience with Jesus. In the 18th century, it was more an ethical or moral kind of thing and much less
interested in formal ritualistic practices. Today’s emphasis on personal salivation did not begin here until the Great Awakening of the 1820s.
I think 99% of the Founding Fathers believed the Story of Creation found in Genesis, but even before the Bill of Rights, the FFs did not want to make
religion a test to hold public office. See US Con. Article VI, Sec. 3. “ . . and all executive and judicial officers . . shall be bound by oath or
affirmation to support this constitution, but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the
If you want to know more about America and the prevailing attitudes towards religion in the last quarter of the 18th century, then you should first
study English history beginning with the reign of King Henry VIII, 1509, and especially the reign of his daughter, the first Queen Elizabeth and
ending with the Glorious Revolution of 1688 and its aftermath, especially the English Bill of Rights of 1689.
England was ahead of the American Bill of Rights by about 100 years. Those over here who opposed our Bill of Rights - the first 10 amendments -
believed for the most part the 1689 Bill prevailed in all English colonies making another Bill redundant. It was part of the common law
every state adopted as the basis for its laws. Except Louisiana. It is part of the UK's "unwritten" constitution along with the Maga Carta of 1215
and other documents.
Out of this violent period of English history came Guy Fawkes Night, November 5, 1606, which we Protestants will always celebrate! As some Catholics
celebrate 1572's St. Bartholomew Day. Oh, and no study of religion and government and how poorly the two mix, is complete without a reading of the
treaty of the Peace of Westphalia which ended (on the continent) the 30 Years War, 1648, the last war of religion. Aside: Some historians call the
period 1914-1945, the Second 30 Years War. FYI.
What did the FFs think about mixing religion and politics? Read the Preamble to our Constitution. “We the people of the United States,
order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and
secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Who does the “ordaining” of this document? The Pope? The local Archbishop? No, it is the people! Neither God nor his self-appointed servants are
mentioned. The protection of God is neither requested nor invoked. America is a secular country. That should set this question straight.
Keep your religion personal and private. If you cannot, then stay out of government. And one more thing. Atheists I know tend to have higher ethical
values than most Christians in public life. If you want to run for public office, you need to get a religion. I recommend a mainstream church, like
Methodist, Episcopalian, or Congregationalist. Beware of non-affiliated churches . They are invariably a one man show. No accountability. No
oversight. That’s why it is a one man show. Dangerous to the republic, too. T. James Kennedy. Robert Schuller. Oral Roberts Jr. James Dobson. Jerry
[edit on 12/6/2006 by donwhite]