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Originally posted by Techsnow
I've said it before. The only way to fix this mess now is to start all over.
Originally posted by iori_komei
Ok, here's a question, why don't we just print this money,
and kep the value of the dollar at what it is.
I mean the Chinese artificially mainpulate ther economy
like that, why should'nt we?
And I don't want an excuse about fragile global economics,
the rest of the world can just do the same if it needs to.
We should'nt even have money in the first place, the only
reason we do is because the human race is a petty and
greedy species that cares more about having useless
junk than betterment of themselves and the species
as a whole.
Originally posted by AMANNAMEDQUEST
isnt money abstract, why not just erase the debt?
Originally posted by osram
At some point they would need to bring back the Gold Standard to 100%.
At least that's more or less what I understood.
While those few wo know what is going to happen will make alot of profit.
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Originally posted by osram
At some point they would need to bring back the Gold Standard to 100%.
At least that's more or less what I understood.
While those few wo know what is going to happen will make alot of profit.
There is a finite supply of gold in the world.
Gold would sky rocket to $10,000 an ounce.
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
The US national debt now stands close to 8.7 trillion dollars. Congress could wipe out the entire national debt in one day by ordering the printing of $9 trillion crisp new dollar bills.
www.brillig.com...
There is not enough gold in the vaults to back up the bills in print now so whats the difference?
Let's go all out.
Whatcha think, deal or no deal?
Originally posted by k4rupt
didn't you guys take Economics in high school?
MEET BILL STILL, FIAT-MONEY ADVOCATE - An analysis of the documentaries Money Masters and Capital Crimes - © 2006 by G. Edward Griffin
[...] Still claims that it would be a mistake to return to a gold-backed monetary system because most of the world’s gold now is held by the bankers. This is a deceptively appealing argument. First, it is not true. Central banks do hold more gold than any other single entity; but the total inventory of gold in the hands of private citizens, as bullion or coins or jewelry or known deposits in working mines, is much larger. If money were to be restored to a precious-metal base, this largely invisible reserve would be more than adequate to supply the demand. We must remember that the limited supply of gold as a monetary base is an advantage, not a disadvantage. If it were not scarce, it would not have utility as money. The smaller the supply, the more valuable it is. As pointed out in The Creature from Jekyll Island, any amount of gold or silver will work just as well as any other amount. The only difference is how valuable each unit of measure will be. The argument that “we don’t have enough gold in the world” is without foundation, and those who say this do not understand the fundamental mechanics of money.
Bill Still does not make this argument but he comes close when he says that most of the world’s gold is held by the bankers. Even if this were true (which it is not) we need to ask a question: If gold is so useless as a backing for money, why are the bankers trying to acquire it as fast as they can? And why are central bankers so strongly opposed to gold or silver-backed currencies? The answer is obvious. It is because precious metals still are, and will continue to be, a universally recognized storehouse of value, and that value cannot be manipulated by bankers OR free-spending politicians. But fiat money CAN be – and always will be.
This brings us to the crux of the matter. Still claims that, because the bankers have operated a gigantic monetary scam for hundreds of years, it is time to break their grip over our lives and establish a fair and honest monetary system We could not agree more on that point. But then, in the tradition of Greider and Stinnett, he attempts to lead us to a non-solution. He claims that we should take this power from the bankers and give it to the politicians, because they are chosen by the people and, therefore, can be trusted.
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
This sounds like euro economics to me, (sorry no offense)
that would be worse than leaving the current debt the way it is!
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson
"If the people only understood the rank injustice of our Money and Banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." - Andrew Jackson
"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is Absolute Master of all industry and commerce." - James Garfeild, US President, assasinated 3 weeks later.
"Federal Reserve notes are not dollars." - Russell Monk, Assistant General Counsel Department of the Treasury 1977
"Give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes the laws." - Mayer Amschel Bauer
"If ever again our nation stumbles upon unfunded paper, it shall surely be like death to our body politic. This country will crash." - George Washington
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied." - Thomas Jefferson
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." - A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933
"The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys it creates out of nothing. " - William Paterson, co-founder (with Nathan Rothschild) of the Bank of England.
""Yes, Fort Knox is guarded today just so no inquiring citizen can look in and confirm that there is no gold stored there anymore." - William Paterson, co-founder (with Nathan Rothschild) of the Bank of England.
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."
- Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, highly esteemed by his former student, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.