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Originally posted by subz
Any group that President Regan found the need to resort to terrorism to stop cant be all that bad in my books.
Originally posted by El Che
I'm from Nicaragua and it was at civil war for about 20 years. It ended when I was born 1989. The communist group is named the Sandinista they tried to bring in communism to my country. My mother and father left their home cause of this.
now the election for the Presidency has started and the the communist group has won the election there. The new president name is Daniel Ortega. My mom she scared as # and my aunt already got tickets to get my cousin out of my country.
This smiling man is Daniel Ortega. I hate this man guts my whole family is torn by "the fight for freedom" only to find out that it was we not going to have a word in the process. So had a other civil war.
This whole process ends on the day my grandma die and when I was born. Now after all the dead and all the pain people still want this man who part of a party that was COMMUNIST!!!!!
I just hope they aren't lie about how they change.
Originally posted by psyopswatcher
Oh gimme a break, Sleeper. I lived 3 years in a spanish village that was run by a communist mayor. They liked the color of my money as much as anyone's, believe me.
And guess what, the communist party is just as legal in the US as any of them. Get scared if they ever gain in numbers and become a majority. But stay ever viligent, the boogeyman's out there.
After what happened there in the 80's, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if Ortega allies his govt with Cuba and Venezuela. And get the hell out of CAFTA, the capitalists are trying to screw them again.
Originally posted by psyopswatcher
Look Sleeper, you know and I know this is really about investors exploiting their resources.
Hugo knows that, Fidel knows that, and Daniel's been very well aware for the better of the past 20 years.
My hat is off to the ones out their protecting the rights of the citizens, rich or poor, but in the best interests of the homeland they love. Kinda like Vlad too.
Now, if Ortega had quit politics to get a little of the action for himself, would you hold that against him?
Originally posted by sleeper
Nicaraguans had Reagan to help them last time, now they are screwed, no one can save them from themselves.
Originally posted by Intelearthling
There are other people who think along thew same lines as President Reagan and Lt.Col. Oliver North.
In early 1987 he was nominated to become the Director of Central Intelligence in early 1987, but withdrew after it became clear that the Senate would reject the nomination because of controversy about his role in the Iran-Contra affair.
Originally posted by El Che
I'm from Nicaragua and it was at civil war for about 20 years. It ended when I was born 1989. The communist group is named the Sandinista they tried to bring in communism to my country. My mother and father left their home cause of this.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Join the club.
My home has just become Communist too with the Democrat sweep.
Originally posted by sleeper
I wish people like you could change places with people like subz.
People like subz probably some rich liberal living high on Capitalism has no idea what hell people who actually have to live under communism go through.
Originally posted by sleeper
Nicaraguans had Reagan to help them last time, now they are screwed, no one can save them from themselves.
Contra Attrocities
The Nicaragua conflict claimed an estimated 60,000 lives. The Contras were frequently accused of being responsible for multiple political assassinations, kidnappings, and the widespread use of torture. They were opposed by many Nicaraguans as well as foreign human rights organizations who viewed their tactics, which included the targeting of civilians, as brutal and indiscriminate.
The Contras were accused of blowing up bridges, civilian power plants and schools, burning fields of crops and attacked hospitals. Their tactics were said to include rape, kidnappings of peasants and civilians, ambushes and massacres against small rural communities, farms, co-operatives, schools and health clinics. Contra raids caused extensive damage to crop fields, grain silos, irrigation projects, farm houses and machinery. Numerous state farms and co-operatives were incapacitated; other farms still intact were abandoned because of the danger. Witness For Peace, an American Protestant watchdog body, collected a list of Contra atrocities in one year, which included murder, the rape of two girls in their homes, torture of men, maiming of children, cutting off arms, cutting out tongues, gouging out eyes, castration, bayoneting pregnant women in the stomach, amputating the genitals of people of both sexes, gouging out eyes, scraping the skin off the face, pouring acid on the face, breaking the toes and fingers of an 18 year old boy, and summary executions.
One survivor of a Contra raid in Jinotega province, which borders Honduras, reported: "Rosa had her breasts cut off. Then they cut into her chest and took out her heart. The men had their arms broken, their testicles cut off and their eyes poked out. They were killed by slitting their throats and pulling the tongue out through the slit."[1] The human rights organisation Americas watch, concluded that "the Contras systematically engage in violent abuses…. so prevalent that these may be said to be their principle means of waging war."
Originally posted by marg6043
Originally posted by El Che
I'm from Nicaragua and it was at civil war for about 20 years. It ended when I was born 1989. The communist group is named the Sandinista they tried to bring in communism to my country. My mother and father left their home cause of this.
Donde estas viviendo A hora? Tu cres que el fue electo con fraude?
Sometimes people in certain countries tend to go back to the same type of government that they were mostly oppress under.
Perhaps things will not be as bad as you think. Unless you know for sure that this man is and has been a bad influence to the country in the pass.
Originally posted by El Che
subz you made very valid points. But the Sandinista did the some of those things. Most of my family is dead cause of this. If you lived with my mom and see how my family is well you change your mind.
Originally posted by El Che
I want to believe Daniel Ortega cause if he does Nicaragua will be up in arms, and I just want to move on. You know no more war.
Originally posted by subz
My posts are less endorsements of Ortega than they are swipes at Reagan and those who automatically poo-poo communism with no idea what our capitalist systems are and what our leaders have done.
If he doesnt deliver on his promises and acts against Nicaraguans' best interest then turf the son-of-a-bitch out on his backside.