What's so bad about Babylon?

Hello Sir George!

Here's a little ode for you (and me!)

Babylon

Curious creature giggles in darkness
Sinister angel created by dreams
Irresistible moonlit seductress
Icy laughter undoing heaven’s seams

Destroying Babylon standing below
Casting shadows, wreaking mortal heart rift
Enters as lover but exits as foe
Catching the tail of a skyward smoke drift

Penelopeee at her best/worse as usual... nothing new under the 'sun', gee nice pun...

OK, Dorannie. i know it's just ur 'nature' expressing itself...

or shall we get onto the 'babylonian harlot' as she sucks on the 'blood' of the saints...

Lolove Mistress/Queen Annie n mazel... ave maria ! Infinity

Originally posted by runetang

Originally posted by queenannie38

Buddhism started in China.
Hinduism started in India.

Actually they both started in India. Buddhism started in the Northern India area and the Kashmir Pakistan area. It is a spin off from Hinduism, much like Christianity is from Judaism. If you keep this in mind when comparing them you'll see what I mean.

And both came from Zoroasterianism

Originally posted by Nygdan

Not a single one from the list came from babylon.

All are from Babylon.

So, instead of masonry being made by a group of people that were just trying to get people to be more charitable, and who decided to use things from the world as symbols and metaphors, like the sun, the heavens, the moon, etc, instead of that, its really a group of minions of the devil, trying to get people to not beleive in jesus.

Masonism is a religion of works. To become a Mason you have to believe in a higher power. Why don't you do a little research and find out the name of the Masons god. It shouldn't be too hard to find.

I mean, I can accept that there is a devil and he wants to lead people away from jesus and he's influenced people to create fake religions. But it doesn't make the least bit of sense to say that anything that it associated with the sun moon or stars must be a product of that. Nor does it make sense to say that hinduism leads people away from christ by use of the star moon and sun symbols. Hinduism, being another religion, leads people away from the christian religion on its own. Ig anything, the idea of a 'sun matrix of false religions' doesn't make sense, the devil wouldn't make all these false religions based upon the sun, and stemming from babylon, that'd be, well, obvious.

Really. I merely ask you to pick a religion and trace it to it's origin. If you do your homework you will find Babylon.

What would it matter what he made the false religions like anyway? He'd merely have to make a religion that isn't christianity, not a sun religion, nor spread it out from babylon.

See Nimrod.

And why aren't you including judaism in this list? The jews lead people away from christ also.

The Jews don't really go out and recruit non Jews. The Jews have been kept seperate.

If you don't include the jews, you can't include the catholics and mormons and other christian sects, since, in the end, they all still tell people that christ is lord and people are saved through his sacrifice on the cross. It doesn't matter that they also tell people to be good people along the way. They are still saying to worship the Triune God and that salvation comes from jesus, even if its associated with a ritual administered via a preist.

Catholics anf Mormons teach salvation through works as do the eastern religions.
And all with roots from Babylon.

The whole human race has roots in Babylon, Sun.

Nebuchadnezzar is still your king, you just call him by another name.

[edit on 19-11-2006 by wildcat]

Originally posted by Sun Matrix
All of these come from Babylon.

You will find the sun, moon or stars in all of them. Look at a Mormon temple. Look at a Hindu temple. SUN MOON STARS.
[edit on 15-11-2006 by Sun Matrix]

The stars, moon and sun are all elements in the vedic culture and have little significance. Moreover Buddhism has come from Hindusim and the culture of Babylon has been taken from the Indus-Valley civilization rather than the other way around . The Harrapans were way more advanced than the Mesopatamians were and infact their cities were so good that even NOW there are parts of cities which are worse than what they had back then!

Another interesting observation is that the Ancient Harrapans had no signs of preists, armies or temples etc. Something that makes their civilization unique apart from being the most advanced city planners!

It is this civililzation coupled with the aryan ideas that makes up the vedic philosophy!

[edit on 19-11-2006 by IAF101]

[edit on 19-11-2006 by IAF101]

The stars, moon, and sun are part of the universe; which also includes planets of which the place we now live is one.

God made the universe.
God made man.
Man made religion.

I'd rather follow the message in the stars than the message from any random choice pulpit in any religion in any culture of any age.

Just because that way I know it's not someone's personal idea - human beings can't alter, taint, and contaminate the workings of the cosmos (so far)....

I trust God.

And there is just ONE - He loves the Babylonian just the same as the American Christian or the universal heretic.

What evidence has God ever provided for us to believe that he loves/ever loved us ??

Originally posted by IAF101
What evidence has God ever provided for us to believe that he loves/ever loved us ??

Because of the Grace of Christ, we all have the oppertunity to create our own destiny.

Remember, He said that we are all (potential)Gods(Elohim) and Sons of the Most High(El Elyon).

If we are suffering, it is because of our own actions(the Qur'an says this as well), and the proof if this lies in the perfect logic of the teachings of Dependant Origination based on interdependance.

"The Devil" and "Satan" are only symbolic of the unsublimated sexual energy; it is not a personal spook with horns and tail.

Demons are simply fallen Adams who did not repent.

"Sexual energy can convert us into Angels or Demons." - Samael Aun Weor

Moses had the horns of Christus-Lucifer, the Creator.

The horns of the Satanic-Luciferic fornicators of the Dugpas and the like, are not the same horns, of course.


Anyway, it is even taught that Bodhisattvas visit the Hell Realms in order to liberate Sentient Beings from suffering.


In the Biblical sense, Babylon and Egypt are only symbolic of corruption.

In their origins, these civilizations were not evil, and the Ancient Rabbis knew this and respected them.

However, like all nations, they eventually abandoned the Gods(manifestations of Christ) and fell into degeneration.

Khemet(Egypt) did not have Hebrew slaves to build the Pyramids(although there may have been Hebrew servants).

The account found in the Torah is, like I've said, symbolic.

So we are actually living in a symbolic "Babylon"; a modern "civilization" of fornication, greed, the Five Poisons, Seven Deadly Sins, etc.

Look at all the garbage "spiritual" books on the shelves at your local bookstore and how they justify all types of lowly passions.



The "Babalon" of Jack Parsons mentioned earlier in this thread, is like his Zionist masters, indeed corruption and pure Black Magic.





Regards







[edit on 19-11-2006 by Tamahu]

Originally posted by IAF101
What evidence has God ever provided for us to believe that he loves/ever loved us ??

John 3:16 should cover it.

You mean :

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Well the world is just as barbaric now as it was then and pain, suffering etc are just the same now as they were then.

Also arent we all the children of god ??

Originally posted by Sun Matrix

Originally posted by IAF101
What evidence has God ever provided for us to believe that he loves/ever loved us ??

John 3:16 should cover it.

Oh yeah. :shk:

That's all it takes, huh?

'Here, read this!' and then follow that up with constant 'Zoroaster!' 'Mystery Babylon' 'You are decieved!'
(BUT God loves you, didn't you READ what I showed you?)
:bnghd:

Do you not realize what exactly is YOUR role - as a professed follower of Christ - as far as providing evidence and convincing testimony, for God's love for the world...through your OWN actions of LOVE toward others in the world?

Has yours waxed cold?

Originally posted by IAF101
You mean :

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Well the world is just as barbaric now as it was then and pain, suffering etc are just the same now as they were then.

Also arent we all the children of god ??

There is pain and suffering because man has been given charge of the earth.......and Satan is at work.

1 john 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.

Originally posted by queenannie38

Originally posted by Sun Matrix

Originally posted by IAF101
What evidence has God ever provided for us to believe that he loves/ever loved us ??

John 3:16 should cover it.

Oh yeah. :shk:

That's all it takes, huh?

'Here, read this!' and then follow that up with constant

'Zoroaster!' 'Mystery Babylon' 'You are decieved!'
(BUT God loves you, didn't you READ what I showed you?)
:bnghd:

Do you not realize what exactly is YOUR role

- as a professed follower of Christ - as far as providing evidence and convincing testimony, for God's love for the world...through your OWN actions of LOVE toward others in the world?

Has yours waxed cold?

I see the accuser is gaining strength in you again. Maybe another lesson in spritual warfare is in order.