I'm sure this has been posted elsewhere and asked elsewhere. But humour me this once please and tell me in so many words without biting my head off(cuz I'm sensitive and all) What is SO wrong with being a liberal? Oh, and I'm being non-judgemental and remaining non- biased when asking this

Originally posted by magestica
I'm sure this has been posted elsewhere and asked elsewhere. But humour me this once please and tell me in so many words without biting my head off(cuz I'm sensitive and all) What is SO wrong with being a liberal? Oh, and I'm being non-judgemental and remaining non- biased when asking this

u make me smile....i have reason to believe colonel will back u up all the way on this one....just a hint
liberal? i am, believe all republicans worship satan and abuse christianity,and have babies' for meals? no
this forum's taken the topic way off limits...i am a liberal,
yet i fail to understand the reasoning behind some of the acusations thrown at the opposition
in short....there is nothing wrong with being a liberal, as long as you keep your views to yourself and dont force that view upon others.
these boundaries*sighs* have sadly been long broken here on good ole' ATS, ergo...no peace untill one falls off their branch, will the crows nest in tranquility.
good enough?



[Edited on 12-11-2003 by Cyrus]

That was a very *nice* answer..though I expect to get this thread chewed and spit out at some point in the near future(some strange thing is telling me that)

I am one to agree with all that you've said here on ATS but bite my tongue and or fingers..on many occasions hehe!

I'm just not seeing/understanding why when someone asks you and your reply might be "Yes I'm liberal" they nearly GASP! and get this horrid look on their face like you just told them you are a murderer heh!

You make me smile too

In the US, the term has come to be a propaganda jump off point for the right to demonize.
Truth be told, an American Liberal is an American Liberal, not a commie or socialist.
The point of confusion comes from the fact that, due to their mindset, Liberals take the posture of an adult being called names by an 8 yr old., when it comes to all this demonizing - they don't want to sulley themselves.
That's whats brought it to the confusion that exisits today.

Originally posted by Bout Time
Truth be told, an American Liberal is an American Liberal, not a commie or socialist.

Thank you Nuff said!

Originally posted by Bout Time
In the US, the term has come to be a propaganda jump off point for the right to demonize.
Truth be told, an American Liberal is an American Liberal, not a commie or socialist.
The point of confusion comes from the fact that, due to their mindset, Liberals take the posture of an adult being called names by an 8 yr old., when it comes to all this demonizing - they don't want to sulley themselves.
That's whats brought it to the confusion that exisits today.

so it's moreso used colloquially than anything else huh...that explains a lot, believe me when i say i totally regret mentioning my being a liberal to strangers now
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my mysery's my past
this cannot last
my pain lead in suffering
no more will i be stuttering
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Nothing wrong with being liberal. Just as long as you're not SUPER liberal.(you know, the femminist/politically correct/tax boosting/social program-adding liberal)

Or as I've heard from extreme conservatives,(which are also no good) "Because the left is not right!"

Liberalism in my opinion could be defined as the art of rolling over and pissing on yourself, because your freinds said you should do it.

But hey that's just my opinion.

Extremism in anything isn't a good thing...as it blinds you to your side's shortcomings, as well as to the opposite side's qualities....that's why most are somewhere in the middle....

Originally posted by Gazrok
Extremism in anything isn't a good thing...as it blinds you to your side's shortcomings, as well as to the opposite side's qualities....that's why most are somewhere in the middle....

And yet we have no choices save for extremist candidates!

Very true!

So, it's lesser of multiple evils again! Woo hoo!

Gotta love the bi-partisan system, eh?

When one cares about others and only wishes to do good for others, wishing that our government would do what is was intended for:

1. protecting the people of this great country from outsiders who would mean to do us harm

and

2. protect the people of this great country from
the greed of those who would run over their own mothers if it meant an extra dime in profits!

You see, the liberals see our country as an entire family of Americans. We should all work together to make our home of America the haven from the worlds turmoil.

On the other hand, the conservatives see only the green of money and greed. The all-mighty-dollar and the richest 2% of our population is to be held more important than the rest of our people. They wish to turn back the clock on the evolution of our democracy, attempting to return our country to the pre-1930's America. The America where they ruled the world, wealth was king and the people of this great country were merely their pawns.

But America is waking up, the paralysis imposed on the US by the 911 attacks, that allowed the right to exploit our fears and make us as hatefilled and bigoted as they are, has now begun to wear off and we all now see what a terrible mess shrub and his gangsters have created.

It's not to late to change direction from this road of ignorance that shrub has led us down, we can make this change by voting for the only man who can & will beat the bush-cartel in 2004!!

Dr.Dean in 2004!!!
Take back YOUR AMERICA!!!!

Originally posted by magestica

Originally posted by Bout Time
Truth be told, an American Liberal is an American Liberal, not a commie or socialist.

Thank you Nuff said!

Uh, I beg to differ. The liberal movement in the U.S. is the result of Soviet work to undermine the U.S. They had a longterm goal, just weren't economically strong enough to see it. I fear the victor of the Cold War may still die from its battle wounds, though, and their social undermining is the injury that will bring us down

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

Originally posted by magestica

Originally posted by Bout Time
Truth be told, an American Liberal is an American Liberal, not a commie or socialist.

Thank you Nuff said!

Uh, I beg to differ. The liberal movement in the U.S. is the result of Soviet work to undermine the U.S. They had a longterm goal, just weren't economically strong enough to see it. I fear the victor of the Cold War may still die from its battle wounds, though, and their social undermining is the injury that will bring us down

right on but sad

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

Originally posted by magestica

Originally posted by Bout Time
Truth be told, an American Liberal is an American Liberal, not a commie or socialist.

Thank you Nuff said!

Uh, I beg to differ. The liberal movement in the U.S. is the result of Soviet work to undermine the U.S. They had a longterm goal, just weren't economically strong enough to see it. I fear the victor of the Cold War may still die from its battle wounds, though, and their social undermining is the injury that will bring us down

I believe the American liberal party is still on the right side of the political spectrum. Just not as far right as the republicans.


[Edited on 15-11-2003 by greenkoolaid]

Uh, I beg to differ. The liberal movement in the U.S. is the result of Soviet work to undermine the U.S. They had a longterm goal, just weren't economically strong enough to see it. quoted TC

uh,i beg to differ,anybody that disagrees with current administrations is always painted a liberal...therefore i dont see what that has to do with communism!

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

Uh, I beg to differ. The liberal movement in the U.S. is the result of Soviet work to undermine the U.S. They had a longterm goal, just weren't economically strong enough to see it. I fear the victor of the Cold War may still die from its battle wounds, though, and their social undermining is the injury that will bring us down

You know that's nonsense TC. That's the label the conservatives give the liberals.

Also, liberals care about and for the enviroment much more than conservatives. Conservatives cut down trees while they could use hemp to make clothes and paper and save lots of trees...

The trouble with liberals is as old as our country actually. It is all about wanting a strong or weak federal government. I personally want a weak central govt. With a strong central govt, there is so much less freedom and choice. The govt should not be used to solve societies ills, people can do it through there own communities. It seems so evident to me that the bureaucrats that control the federal govt are not really interested in solving anything. They are more interested in keeping a job, which means that if they were to solve the problem of, say welfare, they would be out of a job. Liberals seem to want to create more federal bureaucracies to fix all the problems that they see. I, on the other hand, am more in favor of my church and community solving the problems that confront our area, rathger than hoping that a "one size fits all" approach will work. That seems to be the trouble with being liberal to me. I could go on with more examples, but I hope that you understand my basic premise.

Originally posted by vatrucker
Liberals seem to want to create more federal bureaucracies to fix all the problems that they see.

uh well thats hardly what i think anybody that is discribed as a liberal wants.....which is my point....stop calling us liberal's when all we do is disagree with what our curent administration is doing....by the way our current administration is supposed to be conservative republicans... correct? so why have they only increased the size and power of our goverment....so we actually have liberal republicans ruling the white house right now...bush is a liberal republican?... if you discribe liberals as wanting the goverment to grow in size and power...

[Edited on 11-15-2003 by sirCyco]