Tony Blair Resignation

Hey folks with reports about Tony Blair's resignation from PM next summer coming through, does anyone have any ideas/speculations about how UK-US relations will be effected by Gordon Brown becoming PM and how Terrorism on UK soil will be dealt with?

Isn't there going to be a leadership contest?

Surely they can't give it straight to Boring Brown? God help us all.....

I say good riddance to Blair, they're on their way out now, Labour, the Tories will win the next one, I've put money on it.

i am sooooooooooooooooooooooo !!! happy to hear that tony 'the crony' Blair is leaving!!

Oh I think im going to have a party.

At least this way no one has to give him the literal bullet, the labour parties done it for us...

Yeah! yeah! declare a national holiday!

Yeah there is supposed to be an 8 week leadership contest and with with some people on the left being opposed to GB being named main candidate it may not be him at all, but i'm fairly confident that it will be.. John McDonnell (chairman of the socialist campaign group) is supposed to have said he is launching a leadership campaign, but he is a twat.

the Tories will win the next one, I've put money on it.

Then we are all f****d

No way -this goverment under tony blair has raised taxes 150 % since they cam to power.

Were f##### over now by those b####### in number 10 and 11 - lets have a tax cutting goverment from the tories for a good clean out of the corridors of sleeze.

You cannot let the tories back in to power.....ever.....

Yes they want to cut tax, but in order to do this they are going to scrap public services.. Not to mention the charges they are wanting to bring in for hospital operations..

*cough* Section 28 *cough* poll tax *cough*

Surely there has to be a better replacement than these fools.

it doesn't matter which goverment we get were still knackered, all mp's are only interested in lineing their own pockets and looking after number one.

Originally posted by solidshot
it doesn't matter which goverment we get were still knackered, all mp's are only interested in lineing their own pockets and looking after number one.

The mans got a point.....

Originally posted by prmlscrm
You cannot let the tories back in to power.....ever.....

Yes they want to cut tax, but in order to do this they are going to scrap public services.. Not to mention the charges they are wanting to bring in for hospital operations..

if you look at labours track record though they are quietly privatising the nhs, that along with all this pfi initiative rubbish is just dumping mountains of debt on the future members of our country

Originally posted by prmlscrm
You cannot let the tories back in to power.....ever.....

Yes they want to cut tax, but in order to do this they are going to scrap public services.. Not to mention the charges they are wanting to bring in for hospital operations..

*cough* Section 28 *cough* poll tax *cough*

Surely there has to be a better replacement than these fools.

Or Labour raise taxes and spend huge amounts of money on complete folly. Or let in 600,000 immigrants (not including the 500,000+ illegals) in 18 months. or.... I could go on, but solidshot is right, we're boned anyway.

But, i base my theory about the Tories winning not on support for them (I do not vote Tory) but rather on watching the game. I also bet Hillary Clinton in the White House too, you heard it hear first, folks...

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
this goverment under tony blair has raised taxes 150 % since they cam to power.

Presumably you can support this statement?

lets have a tax cutting goverment

Without decimating public services? It's not David Cameron you're after, it's Paul Daniels...

Originally posted by timeless test

lets have a tax cutting goverment

Without decimating public services? It's not David Cameron you're after, it's Paul Daniels...

it could be done if we ever managed to get a goverment which didn't constatly squander the publics cash like the recent case of where they spent £141 mil on computer system that would save £60 mil and then scrapped it because it didn't work link and this is just one of many cases that are very similar, any decent private company would have had penilty clauses in the contract that would penalise the company if it didn't deliver or delivered late, but not the UK goverment

I honestly think that the Tory party will come to power under David Cameron - remember he was recently invited to the Bilderberg conference which is simply a behind the scenes hand over of the No. 10 keys to UK leadership.

As soon as Cameron is in power the mandates will slowly start to change and the UK will revert to what the current UK foreign policy agenda is.

They are all the same at the same party

Originally posted by solidshot
it could be done if we ever managed to get a goverment which didn't constatly squander the publics cash like the recent case of where they spent £141 mil on computer system that would save £60 mil and then scrapped it because it didn't work link and this is just one of many cases that are very similar, any decent private company would have had penilty clauses in the contract that would penalise the company if it didn't deliver or delivered late, but not the UK goverment

My thoughts exactly. If a company can implement new IT systems for a few million, that work, then why does the Governenment spend BILLIONS on systems that don't even do the job and are YEARS behind schedule.

Cutting the civil service jobs would save a packet too. I used to be engaged to one and knew many of her colleagues. For the workload each had, you could have sacked 3 out of every four of them and there would be a normal workload that you'd expect in a private company.

Plus all the perks you get from the Civil Service essentially makes it a job for life. Once you in, it's very unlikely you'd ever lose your job.

I know of one example where they shut the Customs and Excise office in my town, where she worked, and where you would normally expect layoffs as a result, they just redeployed everyone into other cushy, no work jobs in other Departments of the Government, wether they were needed or not.

The whole affair needs an overhaul and you could save litterally billions of the yearly budget without impacting services one iota.

Vote Monster Raving Loony you know it makes sense at least they used to have one decent manifesto policy (banning volvo's )

Okay, admittedly I don't know much about UK politics, but is it just a two party system like in the states? I know that there are other smaller parties stateside, but they are never in any real contension for office. Is that the way it is in the UK, because if so, I think this cold be all part of that same Dem v. Rep thing we've got, where we get so pissed at one party, that we retaliate by voting in another party that is all in the same pocket, and has the same agenda.

thanks in advance

In the UK you have the two main parties (Labour and the Conservatives) then there is a third slightly smaller party the Liberals but they dont have much chance of power and havn't been in power since the early 1900's. There are many other smaller parties but none really have much chance of getting into goverment partely due to how much the larger parties have to spend on ad's/spin and partly due to how gulable the UK citizens are when someone like Blair or Cameron start making various promises that will blatently will never be delivered

Doesn't really matter who is in power. One bunch of suits versus another bunch of suits, with the old boy network of high powered civil servants working behind the scenes to keep their own agendas in place.
It's the same with any "Democracy" with a two party system. Sure there are other fringe parties but they are allowed simply to give the illusion of choice, but will realistically never hold any power.

So what choice do we, the tax paying public, REALLY have?

Originally posted by Britguy
So what choice do we, the tax paying public, REALLY have?

Vaseline or KY, it would appear, is our choice...