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Maybe ayou've missed it but you can take DNA sample usually even if the body is shredded to bits and burned.
Clinton now wants to slash the defense budget by over $120 billion
US President George W Bush has announced plans for a $48bn increase in defence spending to fight the war on terror.
Originally posted by makeitso
Perhaps I just tend to oversimplify things?
Rich23
Plus it's a rather dull and partisan swipe at Clinton.
Originally posted by johnlear
Thanks Tuccy, no, I didn't miss it but first you need a body you can shred and burn to take DNA samples from. As far as I can tell there was no flying machine big enough (to hold all of the alleged bodies) that hit the Pentagon.
a) what was it,
b) how did 757 wreckage get there
c) how did the human reamins get there or
d) how the evil gubmint managed to make all the thousands of rescuers comply with their story
e) how did it make eyewitnesses comply
f) how come pieces of personal property of the passangers were found at the site and subsequently returned to families...
There was a piece of aluminum painted red and blue found outside but this was not from a 757
I know of no human remains found inside or outside the Pentagon that were confirmed or identified by any city or county or state coronor in the local area or anywhere else-----John Lear
WASHINGTON — On Tuesday, Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams witnessed a combat zone for the first time in his 11 years of service. He never imagined it would be inside the Pentagon. One of the first recovery personnel to enter the crippled headquarters building after a hijacked Boeing 757 smashed into it, the urban search-and-rescue specialist found a gruesome sight. "If anyone has ever burned a pot roast, they'll know what the victims looked like," Williams, 30, said Thursday after another 12-hour shift of searching for 190 bodies — those of 126 missing Pentagon personnel and the 64 aboard the doomed jetliner.
When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.
I've only heard and seen 3 or 4 eyewitnesses that actually saw the aircraft fly into the Pentagon and their stories conflict. Do you know of more eyewitnesses?
Members of Congress who toured the site Thursday said rescue officials reported that much of the fuselage of the hijacked airplane remains intact in the ruins.
On a second floor, right next to where the jet sheared off a section of the building, was an undisturbed stool. And on it was a thick, open book. Fellow searchers who had gotten a close look said it was a Bible. It was not burned. Nor was anything around it or on the two floors above it.
"I'm not as religious as some, but that would have me thinking," the soldier said. "I just can't explain it."
A piece? Just one? I don't think so.....
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US Military Installation....US military would have the jurisdiction in the matter.
When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.
Sure, Ive seen plenty of them....
Swampfox46, the above pictures are a truly and honestly pathetic representation of a Boeing 757 crash into the Pentagon. Its discouraging that an intelligent person like yourself could be led to believe that those little miserable scraps of metal could represent a Boeing 757
No. You've read testimony most of which is from military personnel.
John O’Keefe, 25-year-old Northern Virginia commuter, managing editor of Influence, an American Lawyer Media publication about lobbying was "not much more than a football field away" on
• Joel Sucherman, USAToday.com Multimedia Editor, saw it all: an American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning. It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. Two seconds later and before he could see if the landing gear was down or any of the horror- struck faces inside, the plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon 100 yards away
Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.
Alfred S. Regnery, president and publisher of Regnery Publishing, Inc., a sister company of Human Events saw a jetliner, apparently at full throttle and not more than a couple of hundred yards above the ground, screamed overhead
Afework Hagos, 26, of Arlington, is a computer programmer, a consultant for Nextel. On his way to work he was stuck in a traffic jam on Columbia Pike, near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. He said he looked at it and saw American Airline insignia and when it made impact with the Pentagon initially he saw smoke, then flames
Originally posted by johnlear
Swampfox46 you should realize how ridiculous it it is to say that passengers were still strapped in their seats after hitting the Pentagon at between 450 mph and an ensuing fire that burned everything except a wheel rim and turbine wheel. Do you have any idea the force of hitting a concrete wall at 450 mph. Wouldn't it cross your mind that the seat belt would break? Passengers still strapped in their seats? After hitting a concrete wall at 450 mph? This must be the Twilight Zone.
Sure, Ive seen plenty of them....
No. You've read testimony most of which is from military personnel.
Swampfox46, I have a background in aviation. I have built airplanes and I have flown them. I have investigated accidents, some pretty gruesome. I know how airplanes fly and I know how they crash. My personal opinion is that a Boeing 757 did not crash into the Pentagon no matter how many websites you present. And that is my opinion.
So lets agree to disagree. You're basing your opinion on reading stories on the internet. I am basing mine on 49 years of aviation experience (I am 64). You see I know what a Boeing 757 is made of. And what its made of is neither in front, nor inside the Pentagon.
Hi John- I have a question; Do you think that there's any photographic evidence in your opinion, that shows impact marks of the wings on the pentagon's facade?
If so, wouldn't that material at that same velocity described above almost dissappear into fine particles and leave no visual evidence on the lawn? Thanx again-
Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by 2PacSade
Hi John- I have a question; Do you think that there's any photographic evidence in your opinion, that shows impact marks of the wings on the pentagon's facade?
The wingspan of the Beong 757 was about 150 feet. There is little or no damage of impact of a wing either to the right or the left of that hole supposedly made by the Being 757. Neither are the windows broken (on both sides) or impact damage to the right or the left of the hole that would indicate the 150 foot wing of a large airliner hit the face of the Pentagon at 450 mph.
If so, wouldn't that material at that same velocity described above almost dissappear into fine particles and leave no visual evidence on the lawn? Thanx again-
The wings of the Boeing 757 are made of large thick spars. There are flap actuators, pipes, tubes, large cast fittings, fuel tanks all kinds of things that just would not disappear into fine particles. Since there is no indication that the wings went into the Pentagon they must be outside. So where are they? The only thing that disintegrated on the lawn in front of the Pentagon was the credibility of those who say they saw a Boeing 757 crash into it.
The bottom line on the Pentagon crash is that the bomb inside the Pentagon went of at 9:31 and the plane with the missile crashed into the pentagon at 9:37. The reason the Pentagon can't show the film from any of the 30 or 40 cameras is because:
(1) there is no Boeing 757, and
(2) the plane crashes 6 minutes after the bomb goes off
Pretty embarrassing, huh?