posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 07:21 PM
Originally posted by DenyAllKnowledge
I came across an article a short while ago about the "Order of Assassins" (a fascinating subject and one that I've read an awful lot about) and found
a titbit that I hadn't heard before:
The secret order that Hasan bin Sabbah created had a significant impact on all subsequent cults and secret societies. During the Crusades, the
Hashishins fought both for and against the Crusaders, whichever suited their agenda. As a result, the Crusaders brought back to Europe the Assassins'
system, which would be passed down and mimicked by numerous secret societies in the West. The Templars, the Society of Jesus, Priory de Sion, the
Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, etc. all owe their organizational efficiency to Hasan. In fact, the Illuminati had their origins in the mystical aspect
of the Hashishin order, although most equate the Illuminati with the Bavarian Illuminati, which was a revised version of the Hashishin system¡¦ (Tim
O'Neill analyzes, in-depth, the influence of the Assassins in Adam Parfrey's Apocalypse Culture)
Now, I'd known that the Templars had links with them but it hadn't really occured to me that their influence was so wide ranging.
How come the Assassins don't tend to feature much on the conspiracy front when we know there are serious adherents still around today? After all,
their current leader the Aga Khan is widely praised for his philanthropy and progressive, globalist rhetoric seems just the sort of decent honorable
fellow that tends to get demonised into a shape shifting lizard, child sacrificing lunatic, etc.
I thought it could be interesting to have a thread where people could post their theories about the Order and what their long term goals may be,
altruistic or something more sinister?
The Assassins are the philosophical fathers of all secret societies and the Templars? Seriously?
It is so sad to see so many modern conspiracy theorists suffering from the great delusion of taking all the secret societies and throwing them into
one pot and creating some kind of secret society jambalaya, when in fact the intricate and complex philosophies and goals of the many secret societies
are actually fairly complex when people actually bother to begin cracking open history books, and read the writings of the secret societies and their
First of all the templars are contemporaries of the assassins, they existed prior to their contact with them and the historical evidence actually
contradicts any cooperation between the two groups, let alone the templars adopting and carrying the philosophy of the assassins to europe.
For one they openly fought against the assassins for much of the crusades and even at one point the old man of the mountain, met with the templars and
offered to convert himself and his order to Christianity and also to fight along side the templars, in exchange for the templars granting him some of
the land for his own personal kingdom. Of course the templars refused and the assassins continued to fight them for the rest of the crusade. Kind of
hard to imagine that the assasins were either a great influence on or even busom buddies of the templars and yet the templars refused to fight with
them. But, I guess truth be damned in modern conspiracy. lol
Another, ludicrous assertion is that the illuminati were also associated with the assasins, wieshapt according to his own writings wanted to free
mankind from the twin yokes of government; the european monarchies and organized religion, the churches. He and the illumanti actually envisioned
freeing mankind from those shackles and allowing everyman to be their own king and priest and every woman their own queen and priestess. Those ideas
hardly seem to fit well with the assassins, who basically were a self serving organization, mainly empowering it's leader the old man of the mountain
and a group which demanded blind obedience from it's members to the point of them sacrificing themselves for the old man if commanded.
Anyway, if people really want to study the secret societies, it's not as hard as people think their are mountains of books written on the subject
going all the way back to those societies foundings, but I guess it's easier for many modern conspiracy theorists to simply lump them all together and
alluding that they are the same or just copying each other...much easier then actually having to do research and read books. lol
And I am not knocking you OP. I actually think it's an awesome idea for a thread. Just, knocking the excerpt of the article you sited.
edit on 25-3-2012 by prisoneronashipoffools because: typos