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Japanese fisherman Shot & Killed by Russians!

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posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 03:53 AM
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In a move that some are sure to call extreme, a Russian patrol boat has shot at and killed a Japanese fisherman off the coast of four disputed islands. The dispute over these islands has never been resolved.

 



news.bbc.co.uk
Japan's foreign ministry demanded the release of three other fishermen who were detained by the Russian boat.
Both countries lay claim to the four disputed islands, which Russia calls the southern Kurils and Japan the Northern Territories.

The dispute has stopped the two nations signing a peace treaty to end WWII. The islands were seized by the Soviet Union at the end of the war in 1945.

Russia has said it will hand over some of the islands to Japan, but Tokyo insists all four should be returned.

According to Japanese press reports, the Russian patrol boat is said to have opened fire on the Japanese vessel and later taken it, along with its crew, to one of the disputed islands.

But the Russian coast guard insisted that the vessel defied several orders to stop and made dangerous manoeuvres, according to the Itar-Tass news agency.





Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Japanese officials have called a Russian diplomat and are demanding an explanation for the killing. This incident shows the true nature of the communist country, the world community should condemn this action by Russia. I'm sure they are just trying to set an example to the rest of these fishermen but the action should still be condemned.



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[edit on 16-8-2006 by the_sentinal]




posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 04:06 AM
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Err . . .


. . . shows the true nature of the communist country.


And here's me thinking that Russia was now a republic!!!


No, seriously, in late 1991 the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics officially ceased, and a non-Communist government took over.
 

But otherwise, there should be no reason to shoot an innocent fisherman.
Unless of course this was illegal fishing, and the boat was piloted in a reckless manner that was endangering to lives (as the article states). In that case, a Coast Guard boat has every right to open fire on the boat. Most probably in this case it was a warning shot gone wrong, but you never know. Russians can be a bit weird.

Down here we've got this group that actually rams Japanese whaling boats with a specially designed ship. I don't know how many people they've killed or how many ships they have sunk, but apparently there is absolutely no law that prohibits them from doing this. Good riddance to those 'research scientists' I say.

I see that we do not yet know whether this was a commercial boat or not, but I guess you would presume that it would be.



posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 04:53 AM
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OOP's I let my true feelings of the russian republic out of the bag, seriously I've been reading to much stuff from that J.R.Nyquist website on the russian plot to deceive the west, and that they have not really changed but are secretly still a communist government.

Still I'm embaressed that I did say that because I'm not sure that I believe that whole yarn.


[edit on 16-8-2006 by the_sentinal]

[edit on 16-8-2006 by the_sentinal]



posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 05:16 AM
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Everyone knows Russians shoot people who get close to their waters. They shoot Americans too. I watch Deadliest Catch and its happened before.
So there!



posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 06:37 AM
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This incident shows the true nature of the communist country, the world community should condemn this action by Russia.




The Russian patrol boat opened fire on the Japanese vessel after it was found in Russian waters and refused to stop, according to Russian media.

The Russian coast guard insisted that the vessel defied several orders to stop and made dangerous manoeuvres, according to the Itar-Tass news agency.

-snip-

But the last time a Japanese citizen was shot dead by a Soviet vessel was nearly 50 years ago.


To be fair, it's not wise to just jump the gun yourself like this. Their job is to make sure no boat comes into their waters illegally. If they did ask to leave and they refused I am fairly sure what they did conforms to international law. The boat, really shouldn't have been there in the first place and with the way the whole World is at the present moment things like this happen.

It is a real shame, the Russian boat did open fire. But how do we know other things did not happen? This is the first report of it and to go around saying the actions of a few people in the military shows the true nature of the Russian Government [and then to call them communists] is rather stupid in my view. Furthermore, the last time it happend was over 50 years ago and these sort of events are common enough but normally they do not involve someone dying.

Clearly, something else must have happend for a life to be taken. However, it is not likely Putin gave the order himself. So the Government can not be directly responsible. What if the dangerous manoeuvres were going to ram the Russian boat? Would it then be fine to shoot at them?



posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 07:03 AM
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Sounds like the traditional russian shoot first ask questions later legacy.Like when they shot down that off course civilian airliner claiming it was a"SPY PLANE".OH PLEASE!



posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 07:30 AM
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WTF??

Is this real - I thought it's some historical event.

Completely stupid & utterly disgusting response from Russian side.


"Russia expressed regret but said the boat had entered its territory and said such breaches should not happen again."

Gimme a break! Total loss of common sense.


[edit on 2006-8-16 by zer69]



posted on Aug, 16 2006 @ 08:05 AM
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Looks like it's more than just about wayward Japanese fishermen.

The global war for resources is now heating up in the West Pacific.


Russia Moves to Develop and Repopulate the Kuril Islands
August 7, 2006

Moscow has consistently dismissed Japan's insistence that Russia return all four islands. President Vladimir Putin said on June 2 that Russia "never considered giving the islands back," though he noted Moscow had signed a 1956 declaration offering to return two of them.

Last month, Putin conceded that Moscow and Tokyo were yet to agree on the construction of the second phase of the Pacific pipeline taking Siberian crude to the Pacific. "The Japanese side wants us to sign an intergovernmental agreement on this problem, while our position is that this project is purely commercial and the state should not take on any obligations," Putin explained (RIA-Novosti, July 15).

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


G8: Japan, Russia Still Far Apart On Isles Row
CattleNetwork.com, KS - Jul 16, 2006

The 4,100-kilometer pipeline is set to run from Siberia's Irkutsk region to the Amur region on the Chinese border, then on to Russia's Pacific coast. Under the first stage of construction, however, the pipeline will run to a town just above the Chinese boarder.

That has raised fears that the Russians won't extend the pipeline to the Pacific coast as quickly as planned, instead favoring a route south to the Chinese city of Daqing - the center of its oil industry. Japan was widely expected to put up soft loans for construction, but Putin said finding money for the project did not present a problem.

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This looks like the Russians will make an example of the Japanese crabbers in order to push there control agenda in the Kuril islands, now that a pipeline is to be built and petroleum to be gained.

So what happens if they sell it all to China, will Toyko sit still?

[edit on 16-8-2006 by Regenmacher]



posted on Aug, 19 2006 @ 09:33 PM
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Well whatever. Japan is not a big force to reckon with someone the size of Russia. and america could give a rats ass about a few tiny islands like that to back them up.

I say we let them figure it out on their own without international help. They are both advanced, developed, civilized nations.



posted on Aug, 27 2006 @ 03:29 AM
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Seems like the FSB made a little mistake now. They seized several fishing boats with Japanese sounding names. They thought they were Japanese boats illegally fishing for crab. However, the boats turned out not to be Japanese...


Axis News: Russian coast guard under FSB seizes 5 fishing boats off eastern coast

25.08.2006 - 11:59 (GMT)



Russian authorities seized several fishing boats off the country's east coast including three with Japanese-sounding names, but none of the boats were of Japanese origin, officials and news reports said yesterday.

The three boats are registered in Cambodia, owned by a company in Belize and have Russian crews

The fourth ship, and another boat seized Wednesday in another part of the Sea of Okhotsk with an allegedly illegal cargo of fish, belong to companies in Russia, the coast guard said.

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posted on Aug, 27 2006 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by Xfile
Sounds like the traditional russian shoot first ask questions later legacy.Like when they shot down that off course civilian airliner claiming it was a"SPY PLANE".OH PLEASE!



nah, it was a suicide terror plot, btw, wasn't there a case of Western warships shooting down an Iranian airliner, mistaken for a missile
err.. an F14?

double standards as usual


[edit on 27-8-2006 by Long Lance]



posted on Aug, 27 2006 @ 07:13 AM
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i musta missed that episode of deadliest catch

lol now ill have to watch all the reruns.

[edit on 27-8-2006 by Damocles]



posted on Aug, 27 2006 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by Hellmutt
However, the boats turned out not to be Japanese...


Egads, what and screw up. The Russian repopulation program won't be much of a success, if they continue sabotage their citizens' business endeavors.

Kuril Islands dispute -Wiki


Japan PM heads to Central Asia, eyes on resources WAPost
Kazakhstan's oil output is expected to nearly triple to 3.5 million barrels per day by 2015, putting it in the same ranks as Mexico and Iran as a major oil producer.

"From Central Asia's standpoint, Japan is no match to Russia," said Natsuko Oka, an expert on the region at the Institute of Developing Economies. She added that since the Central Asian countries were landlocked, Japan would need the cooperation of China or Russia to import oil from the region via pipelines.

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Japan Faces a New Russia
Fishing row reflects newly cash-rich Moscow's harder line

Japan imports almost all of its oil, nearly 90 percent of which comes from the volatile Middle East. To be sure, there are strong expectations that imports of oil from eastern Siberia through the proposed pipeline to the Sea of Japan, if and when they go into full swing, will help diversify oil sources and contribute to stable oil supplies to Japan in the long term.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Looks like Japan will be in a severe bind as China's appetite for resources increases.



posted on Aug, 27 2006 @ 08:06 AM
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They've had trouble close to Russian waters before...They should learn to stay the heck away from where they dont belong...

They'll shoot their own if boats are not identifiable as Russian... I cant say i blame them.



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