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Originally posted by blatantblue
listen to the audio on this video
"yea, thats why hes pulled everybody outta here"
Originally posted by zren
Are some of you guys suffering from braindamage?
It is clear he speaks of destroying the building... "decided to pull it" "then we watched
the building collapse".
Also note that he says "pull it" and not "them".
When you refer to a bunch of people you use "them".
When you refer to a building or a thing you use "it".
Originally posted by Mr_pointy
3. He wouldn't know demolition terms.
'It' in this case would be the firefighting operation.
He was talking to a firefighter at the time, to a firefighter, pull it means to pull the teams fighting the fire out and let it burn.
Pulling to a demolitionist is a literal meaning, they attach cables and PULL the building over with heavy machinery, no explosives.
Since the fires were in no way out of control and untammable, the diesel fuel only burned for song long, then the "raging infernos" began to die down.
It would of been "Pull your men out", "Pull your firefighters out". I would of even accepted "Pull them out" as a term for firefighters, but saying "pull it" without getting over-analytical refers to the building itself being pulled down.
Now, World Trade Center 7 was burning and I was thinking to myself, how come they’re not trying to put this fire out? I didn’t realize how much they had because my view was obstructed. All I could see was the upper floor. At some point, Frank Fellini said, now we’ve got hundreds of guys out there, hundreds and hundreds, and that’s on the West Street side alone. He said to me, Nick, you’ve got to get those people out of there. I thought to myself, out of where? Frank, what do you want, Chief? He answered, 7 World Trade Center, imminent collapse, we’ve got to get those people out of there.
A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
But they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from Fellini, we’re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see.
So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.
Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
Originally posted by Masisoar
Since the fires were in no way out of control and untammable
The idea is that he was trying to justify why they decided to "pull it." In other words, he was providing an excuse (massive, invisible fires).