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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Astronomer70
I think if a man's wife gets pregnant then he damn well should have a say in whether or not it gets a chance to become a baby.
When you say that a man should have "a say", what does that mean exactly?
What do you mean exactly? That she should go along with his wishes, even though she doesn't want another child? Or that the law should be involved?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Ok, got that, still not clear about who the court would have granted paternity to if they were both fighting to disown her though.
The child does not have to get punished; just find the biological father to pay the child support.
If you’re going to hold the presumed father responsible regardless then grant him full custody of the child in question and in doing so he would continue to pay child support and the mother gets punished? How’s that?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
If we disagree, then in the interest of the baby it should be carried through.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
If we disagree, then in the interest of the baby it should be carried through, regardless of who the one proposing or opposing abortion is.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
This mindset of anger at the women and using the child's support or custody as a weapon or punishment really has me concerned. In fact, you guys claim you stand for the child, even the unborn child, you declare your concern and emotional attachment to it, but then, you'd withdraw support from that child to 'get at' or punish the mother in a heartbeat.
Originally posted by JackofBlades
If he can prove that he will be able to support both mother and foetus until birth, and afterwards support and love the child, this should be taken into account when deciding whether or not a termination should be performed.
I'm not saying that his word should be final. If he believes the woman shouldn't have one she can't.
Originally posted by Dae
So you are saying if the woman is pregnant and she doesnt want it but he does, then the woman is forced to have the pregnancy?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Is that right?
Originally posted by Dae
If people, especially white people, care about the falling birth rate, then more must be done to encourage births.
Originally posted by Dae
If people, especially white people, care about the falling birth rate, then more must be done to encourage births. The money and restrictions placed upon women (and men) when having children should be a top priority. I believe women will have less abortions if having a child wasnt such a rough deal.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Dae
If people, especially white people, care about the falling birth rate, then more must be done to encourage births.
White people? WTF does that have to do with anything?
Originally posted by Dae
Umm... 'cos there is a falling birth rate amung white people?
And umm... abortion and choosing not to have children causes the birth rate to fall. Thats if you care about that sort of thing.
And umm.. why the WTF?