OK, i said i wouldn't get involved in this any more because i'm prone to losing it and falling into a trap of being mean, with that in mind, i'm
gonna try to stay calm.
First of all, to the person that is constantly suggesting that when a man and women begin to have sex, he makes the decision to wear a condom or not
that is his only decision as far as the whole pregnancy goes....what the 'chunk'?
In this senario, the woman has made the same choice. If she does not wish the man to go ahead without the condom and he does, that is sex against her
will, which is rape.
BUT if she doesn't mind this, infact allows it and both parties have intercourse and the result is a pregnancy, then both are accountable for the
action, so both should be involved in the childs upbringing, even if its only child support.
I have no issue that if the woman wants to keep the baby, there should be upheld requirements from the father as he was part of the act.
My issue is when the Father wishes to keep the child, and the mother aborts.
Like someone said earlier, if the father is willing to support the mother everyway she needs through the pregnancy and after that is willing to take
the child away with them and not ask for any help, the woman should allow the 9 Month pregnancy to go through, unless there are medical
This comment caught my eye however.....
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
l0rds0fcha0s - What are you proposing the 'say' consist of? Making a woman go through a 9 month pregnancy and childbirth then giving up the child?
Do you realize what you're asking a woman to do?
What if she changes her mind once she sees the child? You guys have absolutely NO IDEA what it's like to hold a life within your body. You have no
idea the bond that forms during that 9 months. Then you want to force her to bear the child and hand it over to you? How realistic is that?
And to an extent, how is this a bad thing?
Not the giving up a child, but the mother becoming attached to it during the pregnancy.
Isn't it a good thing that both parents would wish to be apart of the childs life.
I don't care about the legal stuff about giving over a child, infact if the situation where a mother plans to abort decides to allow the pregnancy
for the father goes ahead, there should be some allowance for this possibility as the bond would be made essentially.
No, its a mixed up world when someone is using a possible bond developing between a mother and child as a reason to justify abortion.
If we live in a world where its OK for a woman to abort without the consent of the father, we should live in a world where its ok for a father to
leave the mother and child without having to pay IF he has stated catagorically he doesn't want a child.
Having said that, I am of the mind that as contraception is not 100% BOTH parties who have CONSENTED sexual Intercourse should both acceot the
responsibilities of the possible outcome.
Ohh and the person who is making out that a woman who is pregnant that has no medical worries and has not been raped chooses to have an abortion but
the father wishes to keep it and has subsequently turned that argument into a forced Slavery thing....erm, no.
For a start, if the woman doesn't want the child, she should be more forceful about the sexual arrangements as the man is showing signs he is willing
to deal with the outcome.
Secondly, BOTH parental signatures should be required for this procedure unless thats impossible due to lack of knowledge or death of father.
IF there aren't two signatures without a genuine reasons then the Doctor should say no.
There are ways of enforcing this.
Firstly, teh Doctor should be held accountable(as well as the mother), I'll tell you right now, if the Doctor can be implicated in anyway, he will
make sure these things are followed.
All abortion should be transfered through a Family Doctor so that any they are aware of both signatures.
IF then the woman takes it upon herself tohave an illegal abortion, then she has commited a crime so there are legal ramification.
Not one of these suggests that a woman be held down against her will for the term of the pregnancy.
Life isn't a side effect of Sex, Life is the reason for it.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
That's called sexism.
So is the fact that a man has no say in this matter....hasn't stopped the women here enforcing their belief he has no choice.
[edit on 22/7/2006 by JebusSaves]