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Guardian Buys Smallpox DNA Sample On Internet

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posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 06:15 AM

The Guardian (Source)
DNA sequences from some of the most deadly pathogens known to man can be bought over the Internet, the Guardian has discovered.

In an investigation which shows the ease with which terrorist organizations could obtain the basic ingredients of biological weapons, the Guardian obtained a short sequence of smallpox DNA. The deadly virus has existed only in laboratories since being eradicated from the world's population 30 years ago.

This is pretty shocking, i mean, sure you can buy pretty much ANYTHING on the internet these days -- but DNA sequences for smallpox, polio and the deadly spanish flu? How did these get out of the labs they supposidly only existed in?

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 07:17 AM
Who said that these were the visuses? Do you have any idea of the equipment you would need to convert a known DNA sequence into an actual virus?
They go to enough trouble just to get the data.

But yeah, this stuff should not be publicly known, even if it doesn't help all that much.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 10:15 AM

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Who said that these were the visuses? [/qupte]
I dont know -- i didn't.

Do you have any idea of the equipment you would need to convert a known DNA sequence into an actual virus?

The article outlines that pretty well -- a crack team of Scientists with various PhD's and alot of equipment. That would cost alot of money sure -- but do you know how much money the US poured into funding AQ, before it became the 'brutal enemy' it is today?

I don't know, but i'll guess enough.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 02:55 PM
They purchased part of the genetic sequence of the virus. Any terrorists that have the ability to purchase, store, and splice together all the components, and then culture it in live cells can probably handle making the virus on their own anyway.

SUNY Stonbrook in New York actually managed to create a 'living' smallpox virus by stringing together raw chemicals. That paper is openly available.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 03:35 PM

Variola Virus

This link has all 185,578 base pairs.

LOCUS NC_001611 185578 bp DNA linear VRL 30-MAR-2006
DEFINITION Variola virus, complete genome.
VERSION NC_001611.1 GI:9627521
KEYWORDS A10L gene; A11R gene; A12L gene; A13L gene; A14L gene; A15L gene;
A16L gene; A17L gene; A18R gene; A19L gene; A1L gene; A20L gene;
A21R gene; A22R gene; A23R gene; A24R gene; A25L gene; A26L gene;
A27L gene; A28L gene; A29L gene; A2L gene; A30L gene; A31L gene;
A32L gene; A33L gene; A34R gene; A35L gene; A36R gene; A37R gene;
A38R gene; A39R gene; A3L gene; A40R gene; A41L gene; A42R gene;
A43R gene; A44R gene; A45R gene; A46L gene; A47R gene; A48R gene;
A49L gene; A4L gene; A50L gene; A51R gene; A52R gene; A5R gene; A6L
gene; A7L gene; A8R gene; A9L gene; B10R gene; B11R gene; B12R
gene; B13R gene; B14R gene; B15R gene; B16L gene; B17R gene; B18L
gene; B19R gene; B1R gene; B20R gene; B21R gene; B22R gene; B23R
gene; B24R gene; B25R gene; B26R gene; B27R gene; B2L gene; B3L
gene; B4L gene; B5L gene; B6R gene; B7R gene; B8L gene; B9R gene;
C10L gene; C11L gene; C12L gene; C13L gene; C14L gene; C15L gene;

But I would excede my 10,000 character limit if I tried to post it all.
This goes on for miles.

1 ctcgagagta tatgttgttg aacgttattg tttgagaaat agttgatgca tcagaatggt
61 ttgcatttat tgtagacgta ataatgcact acattgtttc ctcgtctatc tatatgtttt
121 gataagttat aacacgtttc aatctctagt tttatttttt tgtacgtcac atcttcatcc
181 agtagacgac atagaataca tgtgcaatct ttgccacaat ccatagctat tttggtgcta
241 attattccta tattatattt cacaaaaaat gatgaaggca atcattcctc ataagataat
301 aaaaagtgta ttgagagtga gtaagcatga aaaagattta gtatttagca gtgcggatat
361 gatccaagag ggtgaaatag tcgttctcgt tcagaatctt ttgcagcata agtagtatgt
421 cgatatactt atcgttgaag actcttccag agacgatagc taattgagta caaagtccaa
481 tgattgcaca aagttctttg gcggttttca tggagtcatt tctgatgaaa catttaatga
541 tctccacgca attgtctata ttgtcccacg gaagtgaatc cgagaactcc ttcaactcgc
601 taccaaagag ctccgttgca tcagttctga aagagatgag aagcctgtaa agagaccctg
661 cgctttctct atgggtccat ctatgagaaa cccacaggat gtattcagtc agacaatgtc
721 tgacgtctgc cacggtattc agggagtcct tagtagcatg gcaatgacag ggactgaact
781 gggcacaaga agaggccatt gtgaaggtag acgaaggtta acccgatggt taaccgtagc
841 cgtctgtgct aatagacggc attaatttcc attttttaat ggggttgtgg atgaggaatg
901 agagtgtctt atctcgtcct tggtttacat ggatcagtgt gagaaaaaat atcttgtata
961 ttattaacta aactaactcc ttggtttcaa ttcatgttta aaatgatcta tatgttttat
1021 taatttatta tactgttaaa tgtactgtat ataatagttt ctaacgtgga gtacagaatt
1081 ttcggttaat gagttcatgg taaagggcga atgaatgcct gcctgtatta taatatacat
1141 aagttaatag tttttatcat atttttctaa tactatataa aaatatcatt atgtataatc
1201 attactgtcg ctatcattat tgtgtttgtg tagttctgtt ctatcatcta catcactgtc

You just can't buy the virus itself, you would have to make it.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 05:09 PM
Oh noes!

(Just a joke kids... No need to freak out!)

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 05:39 PM
You just gave me my laugh for the day................

Seems you can buy the ABI 394 DNA Synthesizer on-line.

Look what Paul Boutin is up to.

Biowar For Dummies$1439

It's getting scary, it's only a matter of time before a terrorist bioweapon is used against a civilian population.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 05:54 PM
this was a bit way out there - i mean could a group of terrorists really do this? But then I thought - yes they probably could and thats scary - they did fly planes into WTC 1 and 2. But there we hit a problem - according to many on this site they didnt fly those planes - it was the government. Hmm - as USAMARID and the CDC, as well as Porton Down, here in the UK hold Smallpox samples then buying this stuff is pointless.

In short - we cant have it both ways - either these cells are clever enough to do this stuff and we should be scared OR its a conspiracy and they are unable to and this stuff is just disinfo to cover up potential attacks in the future - just where does that then leave us in a cause to deny ignorance?

Im not knocking the veracity of the article - just looking for clues as to what to think is happening.



posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 07:53 PM

Originally posted by anxietydisorder
You just gave me my laugh for the day................

You're very welcome...

Oh, BTW you should be more careful when uploading viruses onto the ATS boards!

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Silk
- just where does that then leave us in a cause to deny ignorance?

The technology is facile. I am, honestly, rather surprised that it hasn't happened already. I suspect that the jihadis aren't as large a group as normally beleived. I think that most people who'd have the foresight to launch biowarefare can see that its not worth doing for dolts like bin ladin.

posted on Jun, 15 2006 @ 08:57 AM
I think this is just a case of the newspaper making a story out of nothing they bought a 78 letter sequence of the DNA. The whole string contains 185,000 letters. Even knowing the DNA sequence it would be difficult to create the virus from it even in an advanced lab.

I don't think that's all that worrying they must have been short on storys and went for a lets scare people one.

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