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End To 'War On Terror' Nowhere In Sight

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posted on May, 27 2006 @ 11:19 AM
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Bush made a speech to the graduates of West Point Saturday. In this speech He told the graduates how the battle would be fought on every front, until complete victory in achived. He says that this is only the begining of the War On Terror. He also says liberty will not rest until freedom reaches every nation. He makes comparisons of this war to the Cold War.
 



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"America will fight the terrorists on every battlefront. And we will not rest until this threat to our country has been removed," the commander in chief said in his commencement address at the U.S. Military Academy.

"This is only the beginning," he said. "The message has spread from Damascus to Tehran that the future belongs to freedom, and we will not rest until the promise of liberty reaches every people in every nation."

The commander in chief also issued his newest officers a warning: "The enemies we face today are in many ways different than the enemies we faced in the Cold War. The terrorists have no borders to protect or capital to defend. They cannot be deterred, but they will be defeated."

"We're still in the early stages of this struggle for freedom and, like the first years of the Cold War, we've seen setbacks and challenges and days that have tested America's resolve. Yet we've also seen days of victory and hope," he said.




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I think this is pretty worrysome. This guy is basically saying that this is no where close to over and we aren't even close to spreading democracy to our aimed goal; everywhere. He also seems to have made a threat to Tehran that "the future belongs to freedom". The part where he says " we will not rest til the promise reaches every people in every nation." really makes me worry because that makes it sound like there are more wars in store for the future as well as no end in sight.

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[edit on 27-5-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]




posted on May, 27 2006 @ 03:18 PM
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Democracy will not end the problem because this government and many others before that CREATED terrorism with their policies of exploiting people.

Bush, you are using the worst method to solve this problem EVER. With this ``method`` you can only create more terrorism because you bullie and kill thousands of innocents people for you're supposed DEMOCRACY. If it's the same ``democracy`` that we have here, with less rights everydays, with the Patriot Act 1&2, with NSA spying, with corporations owning everything, with you're secrets societies and you're exploitation of pression on others countries to support you're illegals war on Iraq and Afghanistan.

You're the worst president EVER. Maybe people like you because when you decide something, you do it but when those decisions are crap, you do them anyway. The thing you would need the most, it's the capability of re-think if you're right when you do something. To be sure that will be the best decision to take. But no, you think about something, in general this is crap, and then you do it. Plain stupid. Also just a little question, make a big conference where everyone can ask questions about september 11, with specialists on both side, and see who did it. You say is Osama? Well if it's the case, you wouldn't be affraid of a little inquire?? I think there is 42% of americans who don't believe you, you sure want to convince them don't you??

In Iraq is worst than with Sadam, even when you imposed embargo of medical for 2 years, when thousands of kids died, and when you bombarded everyday in those 2 years BEFORE the war, to attack the moral of the people. In Afghanistan, since you're there, the opium buisiness is now at his top when not long before the invasion the opium was hard to find. More money for you're CIA black budget hey? Womans are more raped since the invasion, womans have less rights and they must wear the Khiwar, thing they weren't obligated not long before the invasion. And sorry but invading an ENTIRE COUNTRY (afghanistan) for SAUDI ARABIANS is totally non-sense. When a mexican or a canadian kill an american will you invade mexico and canada?? Since when one man is responsable for all a nation??

Even IF you bring ``democracy`` to this countries, and IF they convert to this system, maybe they will understand how you manipulate them, no? Maybe they will do a ``democratic revolution`` as the Hamas did in January, and you'll lose you're influence, isn't that the contrary of what you want? So if you want to achieve you're crapy goals, I suggest you to let them in a dictatorship or a fake democracy, with a friend of america at their heads, as you did in Nicaragua, Iran, Colombia, Pakistan, Ecuador, Palestine and others I don't know. You also worked for you're own benefit in financing the Fatah, sold to Israël, occupying Haiti and kicked is president elected, financing talibans and a lot of dirty things.

You also used chemical weapons on CIVILIANS in Iraq, you are using depleted uranium on you're own troops! Those poor people will suffer cancers and their future children heavy sickness and deformations. Also you want to use mini-NUKES on Iran and on his nuclear installations who are situated in civilians cities, and this would kill about 3 millions people, the last estimation. But if it's for oil and a strategic place, it's worth it, isn't George??

Also, a democracy will bring them the democracy to attack the US if they want to. With all the deads and all the troubles you did to those countries don't you think that when they will have the chance to strike back they will do it??? Even if it's in 20 years, with the current situation, they would strike back and make pay all the childrens of today that will be the adults in 20 years. It is what you want?? To see you're own children get killed because you're so stupid and money hungry?? Oh yes I forgot, you're children will never make it to the army, because you're rich!

Oh and maybe this is why you want illegals immigrants to become legals, because you want more soldiers, hey Baby Bush? Yes their poor, their mexicans, so they can die for the REAL americans isn't Bush? You're so wise!


Hope I'll meet you at Bilderberg this year, I will have so much fun to tell you how I love you.


See ya!


[edit on 27-5-2006 by Vitchilo]



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 06:15 PM
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I think the end result with this War on Terror will be nothing short of absolute Totalitarianism, if it's left unchecked for it's duration. That's what they've been building towards for some time now, and if they're allowed to, it'll be what they institute.

From here on out, I'm not going to call it a "War on Terror". I'm going to call it a War on Anyone that Doesn't Like US. That's what it really is now anyway.

TheBorg



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 07:08 PM
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Think about it like this:
If this is the tip of the ice berg for the war on terror, then its the tip of the ice berg of controversy over civil rights being taken away as well. That is a very very bad sign.



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 07:55 PM
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This reminds me of the "War on Drugs" that Ronny Rayguns started. It was a great idea, but the reality of it was impossible. He set out to crush drug lords all around the world only to discover that you can't get them all...for that matter, it's hard to even get a small percentage without violating every principle that the U.S. stands for. It turns out that the best attack made in the "War on Drugs" was the "Just Say No" campaign.

The real battle in the war on drugs is in the hearts and minds of our youth.

The real battle in the war against terrorism is to understand what would make people turn themselves into living bombs....Hopelessness!!! Provide people with hope of a viable solution and you've begun the task. Back them into a corner and you've made an even more desperate enemy.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 01:36 AM
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We may not fully understand what we're looking at. the so-called War on Terror could just be the opening move for a larger planned effort. Or, it could be that our politicians are just piling on to something that is conveniently good for them and bad for the rest of us.

My own personal take on the problem is that our leaders may be willing to go from one war to the next just because they can. It would be easier than trying to find a way to turn this thing off. Much more profitable, too.

As an author and political essayist, I don't see anything in their words or deeds that would suggest anything else. Our leaders have latched on to what is a good thing, for them, and they're loath to give it up.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 01:49 AM
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We are already in a state of totalitarianism. At this point, the moves are so miniscule that everyday people miss it. And by the time the entire country truly wakes up, it will be too late. The end-game will be already played. And those who will profit from the eradication of civil liberties will be justly rewarded.

So, Mr. Bush doesn't need to convince anyone. He's got the players in place already. He just has to deflect the public with his "feel good", "aw shucks" persona until it is done and it's too late to turn back.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 01:57 AM
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Also he mention Tehran and Damacus. So Iran and Syria are still in sight. New war soon. New 9/11 soon. Less rights soon. Police State soon.

How sad


Time for revolution soon and the end of it all. It will be hard and lifes-expansive but it will be necessary if it continues like that.


And grimpreaper, very good article that show again that this regime is totally crazy. You're articles and you're speech show that you love you're country but you're not blind, you face the thruth and you assume it. I wish every american would be like you...


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posted on May, 28 2006 @ 03:11 AM
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Many Americans are, but the problem is that not enough follow suit. Most don't have the backbones to stand up and say that they think that the new laws being passed are a bunch of houey. If they did, then we wouldn't be in the crappy situation we're in right now. I really wish there was a way for the people at large to grasp the concept that they've lost the liberty that they believe that they still have. It's just too bad there doesn't seem to be anyone listening when I scream at the media.

TheBorg



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 04:32 AM
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Well, we can scream at the media all we want. But, people have to use that same time to express discontent. That is why dissent is so important. We can either be sheep. Or we can either be active. But most people prefer to be sheep and collaborators with the government.

To be a collaborator or a sheep is an easy path compared to those who actually want the system to change.

[edit on 28-5-2006 by ceci2006]



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 04:45 AM
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It's that wonderful state of permanent war, folks. It makes me think (as i do so, so often these days) of Orwell's 1984. Winston Smith's Britain - "airstrip one" was always at war with someone. HEL-lo! I think that book may be the most important one written in the 20th century. He just nailed particular things, all of which fit together to produce a close facsimile of the world we live in right now: the alteration of history (not as blatant as it was in Communist countries, but there nonetheless); the dumbing-down of society; a reduced vocabulary to impede rational thought; surveillance technology reaching into all our lives; and the breathtaking use of language to lie in the most bare-faced way. The Ministry of Truth... Operation Iraqi Freeom (which was at least one step up from Operation Iraqi Liberation(geddit??)

Where he got it wrong is that he - writing in post-war rationing Europe - couldn't foresee the consumer explosion that our corporations have got us hooked on. But I think it's a fairly forgiveable omission given how much he got absolutely spot-on.

And permanent war, as we all here seem to realise, is the perfect excuse for a police state. And it's being exported from the States - even relaxed and liberal Vancouver is getting sucked into the war on terror, and Blair's doing the tiptoe right now.

There'll be nowhere left to live freely soon.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 04:53 AM
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rich23, don't forget the language Orwell invented to explain these concepts: Big Brother, doublespeak, etc.

I agree with you. Orwell's 1984 should be required reading for everyone. Well heck. Animal Farm, too, but mostly 1984. It is the singlemost important book of the 20th century--especially in its accurate treating of future events regarding war and propaganda. It's amazing and frightening to see the similarities there.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 05:30 AM
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Here is a MUST read for EVERYONE.

George Orwell 1984 PDF

George Orwell Animal Farm PDF

Aldous Huxley Brave New World HTML

Good read!

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posted on May, 28 2006 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by rich23
It's that wonderful state of permanent war, folks.


Umm, I am sure you are aware of this, but it goes back farther...I call this faction that appears so often in history the Molechites after Molech or Moloch, an ancient god of war, human sacrifice, and the rest of that dark stuff we are not willing to accept about ourselves.

The owl is a bird of the night, and the night is allegorical of the subconscious. Like an iceberg, that which is hidden is far more vast than that which we can see. In so keeping, the rewards of power and control are at the very least a full magnitude greater than what is visible. So to follow Molech and worship the owl is highly addictive. As a ficticious character once put it, "You don't know the power of the Dark Side!"



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 12:41 PM
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What a CRAPPY speech!

It is just about Business, and it has nothing to do with Terrorism whatsover.

It is the all famous Project for the New American Century being formed infront of our very eyes.

And if War on Terrorism means killing young civilians without Mercy and in Cold Blood, then you have a pretty accurate image, what the consequences are going to be. But the problem is, that EVERYTHING IS GOING ACCORDING TO THE PLAN! Do you honestly think that the "Big Bosses" - the Globalists, did not Plan every single Action in Advance?

And let's not forget, that WOT is basicly just another Business Deal.

People Die - Money is Good.

Well what do you expect from this Death-Cult?

Peace?




posted on May, 28 2006 @ 03:15 PM
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I can only hope that we will see reform instead of revolt. The odds of being able to get back to our roots in tact are not good. If we end up resorting to violence to purge our country of the poison now infecting it, we're going to become something else. At this point, I don't know what that would be, but the chances of making a good transformation are low.

I do agree that there is some excellent recommended reading out there. I've done some writing myself. the success I've had tells me that a lot of people want to hear the message of reform or revolt...but...they aren't yet scared enough to put dow nteh t.v. remote and the snacks to do something about it.

As much as I regret it, we are going to have to experience much worse from the next President bofoire the people make up their minds.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 03:39 PM
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reading 1984 now, so far it sounds like a science fiction movie....you know how that goes. What was once seen as science fiction is now a reality.

EDIT : one thing is guy is off on is how openly the messages are. They would not, for instance, word it "big brother is watching you" but "big brother is watching out for you". "war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength" is just too blunt and open, "war brings peace, work brings freedom, disipline is strength". The Nazis had a similar way about it. They dont come out in say it, they do a play on words. When you have to control a population of masses, its all about psychology of the masses. If you can get them mentally, theres never going to be a problem...thats IF you can get them.

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posted on May, 28 2006 @ 03:52 PM
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And the next president is likely John McCain, another globalist and pro-corporations and pro-war. Also if Swarzennegger get elected, it will be worst than Bush, if Bush change the law so that Arnold can run for the presidency.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 03:55 PM
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im sorry but if arnold became president I think I would pass of. Why? Who else watched the movie Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone where arnold actually does become president? yea if that happened id flip.



posted on May, 28 2006 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by grimreaper797
im sorry but if arnold became president I think I would pass of. Why? Who else watched the movie Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone where arnold actually does become president? yea if that happened id flip.


Now there is a conspiracy, if this had been planned for all of this time. Wow, that would be a telling tale, in plain view and many would still not see it. Also look at the Sum of all Fears, there's a tie in there if you look for it.



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