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Originally posted by FNF
What is a 'troll'?
I was just being sarcastic.
Originally posted by cybertroy
My conspiracy side is doing some thinking. It's like, here we are again, with a potential freedom being taken away. Now, it was speaking of "Illegal" guns in this gun plan, but do we trust that this will be as far as it goes? The question is, will this lead to eventual disarming of every common citizen, even the responsible citizen who wants a firearm for legitimate reasons?
Originally posted by El Tiante
I encourage this sort of things. Gun control is such a HUGE looser in the US, that even the most lefty dems have long since stopped talking about it. Whenever they do, it only serves to get Republicans elected and increase the NRA’s membership.
Originally posted by truthseeka
I suppose y'all think this is only the UN's fault?
You don't think the cops and military were low on guns when they confiscated them in New Orleans, huh? It's no coincidence. Our govt and the UN are in cahoots on so many things, but this one is truly disturbing.
Know who will have guns if a global gun ban passed? Military, cops, and criminals...
Originally posted by Muaddib
Actually it was with the consent of the mayor of New Orleans that weapons were being confiscated, then the NRA filed a suit on behalf of the people in NO, and the courts agreed with the NRA.....
Get your facts straight before you start making up stories please.
But in one of the great untold stories of our time, George W. Bush is turning back that assault.
In 2003, Bush's Justice Department reversed forty years of official policy -- through Republican and Democrat administrations alike -- claiming the Second Amendment protects only the National Guard. For the first time in almost half a century, your government officially defends your right to gun ownership before federal courts.
The President also signed a national Right-to-Carry law for law enforcement officers and an agreement with 17 major sportsmen's groups to improve hunting and fishing access to Federal lands.
And on October 31 last year, Bush signed the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act", ending the ridiculous, made-up "right" to sue honest gun manufacturers and retailers for the actions of violent thugs.
Originally posted by Techsnow
I imagine the U.S. gov would back this too... since it IS int heir NEO-Conservative Facist agenda... they will most likely use tanks in the large cities to fulfilil their ban.
Originally posted by Techsnow
Don't forget too people that San Francisco and New Orleans has already been banned of guns:
NEW ORLEANS LAWSUIT TO GO FORWARD AS STATE BAN RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL
For Immediate Release:
02-29-2000 Contact Communications:
Washington, DC - The Legal Action Project of the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, which represents the City of New Orleans and 23 other cities and counties suing the gun industry, today applauded the ruling by a Louisiana state court which will allow New Orleans' suit to go forward.
New Orleans became the first city in the nation to sue the gun industry on October 31, 1998; a few months later the Louisiana state legislature changed the state's products liability statute and retroactively banned the city's lawsuit. Civil District Judge Lloyd Medley, Jr. ruled that "this court believes the retroactivity of this law is designed to eliminate this lawsuit for the immediate benefit of a certain class of private citizens, not the general public welfare. Thus, it is unconstitutional."
In October, 1999, a Georgia court also rejected the state legislature's attempt to retroactively ban a similar lawsuit filed by the City of Atlanta. 14 other states, including Texas and Arizona, have passed similar bans on lawsuits against the gun industry, with strong support from the NRA and other pro-gun groups. The New Orleans and Atlanta decisions establish a precedent that may warn off other state legislatures looking to extend special protection to gun manufacturers and retailers.
"The Louisiana decision has enormous implications for the future of gun industry reform," said Dennis Henigan, director of the Legal Action Project. "It was clear from the outset that no state legislature will get away with granting blanket special interest legal immunity to one of the most irresponsible and dangerous industries in America. Despite a state legislature that is owned and operated by the NRA, New Orleans will now have its well-deserved day in court."
NRA Tells Conservatives to 'Remember New Orleans'
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
February 13, 2006
(CNSNews.com) - Larger than life images of law enforcement officers confiscating legally-possessed firearms from New Orleans residents, who were accused of no crimes, played on video screens at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.
National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre urged the audience to "Remember New Orleans!"
"We're gonna make New Orleans the worst nightmare the gun ban crowd has ever seen, I promise you that," LaPierre told listeners, many of them NRA members, in a packed banquet hall.
LaPierre listed numerous studies by both government and private researchers, including some who oppose gun ownership, that show no correlation between gun control laws and reductions in violent crime.
"No gun control law anywhere ever had, ever has or ever will have any effect on crime, period," LaPierre argued. "All of this information is readily available to any policy maker who chooses to live in reality. But, still, there's a steady supply of people who just don't get it."
Included on that list, LaPierre said, are New York City mayor and gun control supporter Michael Bloomberg; Mike Wallace from the CBS News program "60 Minutes," who emceed a fundraiser for the anti-gun Brady Center; and Rebecca Peters of the International Action Network on Small Arms, a George Soros-funded non-governmental organization at the United Nations working to enact international bans on private gun ownership and possession.
LaPierre featured video clips of anti-gun comments by the trio, including Peters' assertion that "American citizens should be prohi..., should, should, be like any other citizens of the world."
"If the U.N. gets its way, we'll be just like those poor souls down in New Orleans whose guns were confiscated by force. They were left with no 9-1-1, no police, no protection and no way to protect themselves," LaPierre said. "That's the United Nations' dream for America."