Islam to rule the world in the next few years

Ahmadinejad doesn't even control the Armed Services in Iran. The Supreme Leader, which is Ayatollah Khamanei controlls the armed services, declarations of war, and much of the real power in the country. And a look at Iran's internal politics suggests they are not on the best of terms with each other.

Originally posted by Jamuhn
Ahmadinejad doesn't even control the Armed Services in Iran. The Supreme Leader, which is Ayatollah Khamanei controlls the armed services,

Thats may be true but do you really think the Mullahs would have allowed somebody to take such a public position that didnt share their views.

Figure heads never get put into power if they really clash with the power behind the scenes.

Originally posted by thawyze
"Ill be dead, but will my wife have to wear a Burqa?"
Why would you be dead...? Just because the media stereotypes Islam you dont need to grow a brain you prejudice prick.

When will you understand Ahmadinejad is not a problem. He isnt the one who is killing millions of people and starting hatred... *cough* Bush, Blair, Sharon.*cough*

And he ain't the one in Illuminati.




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Originally posted by ShadowXIXThats may be true but do you really think the Mullahs would have allowed somebody to take such a public position that didnt share their views.

You should have seen how Iran's previous president, the reformist, Mohammad Khatami would upset the status quo. He even served two terms!

As well, the mullah's don't control the entire country. But anyway, for more information...

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Thats may be true but do you really think the Mullahs would have allowed somebody to take such a public position that didnt share their views.

Figure heads never get put into power if they really clash with the power behind the scenes.

I think you assertion that the current president can only take this position is undermined by the fact that the previous government of Khatami was radically different to this one and his views were completely contradictory to the rhetoric coming out of Ahmmdinejad. By your assertion it would mean that the Supreme Leader Khamenei, embraces the position of Khatami regarding "Dialogue among Civilizations" and embraces reform and the increase of personal and political freedom, otherwise Khatami would never had gotten to the position of being the president.

Originally posted by ludaChris
Thawyze, you are aware the US supported Iraq in its war with Iran because of the Ebassy incident in which 400 US citizens were held hostage in Iran

You sure it was 400? I thought it was a little less than that, somewhere around 52.

Originally posted by ludaChristhe new Iranian regime did nothing to stop it at the time. We should have gone over there at that moment and kicked their asses. Their new govt was in a position to put an end to the incident and they didnt. They were an enemy of our country, and that justified supporting Iraq in their war against Iran. Guess youve never heard the term proxy-war.

You seem to have good knowledge of history. Can you tell me what led to the students taking over the embassy? Was it because that sometime in 1953 the embassy of the United States in Iran was used as a platform to overthrow the democratically elected government of Mossadegh replacing it with the dictatorship of the Shah, which resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of Iranians, and it made the revolutionaries worried that there might be a replica of what happened in Operation Ajax about to take place? Was it because the Shah was given the visa to travel to the US, for medical treatment while he was wanted in Iran for crimes against humanity?

And if you truly believe that holding 52 hostages for 444 days warrants an invasion of a sovereign state and the support of use of WMDs against Iranian civilians, and the support of a war that resulted in half a million Iranains dying, what do you think is the right of the just under 300 civilians that died as a result of the shooting down of the Iranian airliner by the US navy? What do you think is the right of the thousands that died of chemical weapons because the US provided Saddam with Iranian formations while her European allies provided him with chemical weapons? What do you think is the right of the tens of thousands of Iranians who were executed or tortured under the orders of the Shah, after the CIA returned him to his thoron and trained his secret police SAVAK?

Originally posted by Sep


I think you assertion that the current president can only take this position is undermined by the fact that the previous government of Khatami was radically different to this one and his views were completely contradictory to the rhetoric coming out of Ahmmdinejad. By your assertion it would mean that the Supreme Leader Khamenei, embraces the position of Khatami regarding "Dialogue among Civilizations" and embraces reform and the increase of personal and political freedom, otherwise Khatami would never had gotten to the position of being the president.

Please Im not talking about these figure heads views on political freedom or other iternal issues in their own country. Im talking about their views on the West and Israel and these figure heads share the same views and the ruling powers in Iran on that subject.

They would never put a person that thought Israel had a right to exist figure head in power that would never happen its a fantasy.

Their actions have proved this in dealing with terrorist groups like HAMAS. Like for example the 50 tons of missiles, mortars and mines and other associated weapons Iran was trying to smuggle into the Palestine. Financial backing of suicide bombers etc..

The actions echo they aint Israel and anti west stuff their figure heads yap about

Most of the Heat Ahmadinejad gets from Irans leaders is I would bet a result of him being stupid with his public statements. These are views the rulers share like the destruction of Israel but they dont want the heat such public comments like "Israel should be wiped off the map" from their main figure head brings Iran