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CENTCOM prepares battle plan for Iran including B-2's and subs

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posted on Feb, 11 2006 @ 07:33 PM
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www.telegraph.co.uk/news

Please note the pictures with sites that would be attacked, and the range of there missles. They are currently within striking distance of Europe, and with planned technology are growing closer to mainland England.



This is more than just the standard military contingency assessment," said a senior Pentagon adviser. "This has taken on much greater urgency in recent months."


CENTCOM is preparing the final plans for sub based strategic missle attacks if Iran does not back down from nuclear research. They are reporting directly to Donald Rumsfeld the results of this latest plan that has gone past the assesing the threat stage and has gone into serious planning. These plans do not include other countries at this time, as Britan fears reprisals from it's growing Muslim community if these actions are followed through upon.

Iran has hidden many of its facilites underground which means use of long range B-2 bombers will more than likely also be requested for military action against Iran. At this time there is no plan or contingency for occupation as this is intended to stop nuclear proliferation in the country, not change the regime as in Iraq. With the latest from Irans president about again wanting to remove israel from the map, Iran moving forward at there plants, could we could see Armegeddon in the region sooner than we believe?

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posted on Feb, 11 2006 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by esdad71
These plans do not include other countries at this time, as Britan fears reprisals from it's growing Muslim community if these actions are followed through upon.

I've heard nothing of this, who said that?



posted on Feb, 11 2006 @ 08:10 PM
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Lets make it clear they stated these plans are a "last resort" to block Teheran's efforts to develop an atomic bomb. You have to plan for pretty much any scenario in cases like this.


Personally this is the most I could see the US doing if all negotiations go south. Theres really no reason to have any type of occupation or regime change. The Iran nuclear facilities can be crippled without setting a single boot on the ground. Much like what Israel did with Iraq Israel wasnt going to invade Iraq they new they could hit the nuclear sites hard with airpower and they did.

Using weapons like sub launched ballistic missiles missile Iran has really no defense to stop something like that.



posted on Feb, 11 2006 @ 08:22 PM
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I don’t know about using B-52’s, I would prefer if they went with B-1’s and B-2’s. This in combination with cruise missile attacks from US subs would be a good way to open up the Air Campaign. Also, Iran’s president today warned that Iran might withdraw from the NPT, a move which would most likely make the situation more urgent.

And I hope the Pentagon is planning and preparing for an Iranian counterattack upon our troops in the region. Whether it be via proxy sources such as insurgents or direct missile attacks.


"The nuclear policy of the Islamic Republic so far has been peaceful. Until now, we have worked inside the agency (IAEA) and the NPT (Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty) regulations," he said.

"If we see you want to violate the right of the Iranian people by using those regulations (against us), you should know that the Iranian people will revise its policies."

New Nuclear Policy

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 12:57 AM
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Putting aside the fact a number of civilian leaders have cried wolf to many times why is the military option the last one?
Surely it would be better to take any military action now and give Iran less time to prepare.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 01:30 AM
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Im with Shadow, The Iranians are gonna get a lesson in firepower that will make them think Allah himself has smacked them. Theres no need for "boots-on-the-ground", cause our 688 subs can also mine their harbors...nothing comes or goes unless we ok it.

Irans little game will end soon and than we can all go back to our porno's and nasty ATS arguements.

Maximu§

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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Im with Shadow, The Iranians are gonna get a lesson in firepower that will make them think Allah himself has smacked them. Theres no need for "boots-on-the-ground", cause our 688 subs can also mine their harbors...nothing comes or goes unless we ok it.


There is only one problem unless there is a regime any military action against Iran will be a long term failure.
Why is everyone so short sighted?

Dosnt anybody remember the failure of these kinds of wars in the 2nd half of the 20th century ?

Unless there is a regime change we will face the nuclear threat from Iran with in 30 years I would bet money on it.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 03:00 AM
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Iran is a country who knows that a slap on the hand only goes on to embolden themselfs and it serves no good apperently to go the diplomatic route. A massive strike with our sub-based cruise missles, B1B's, F-177's and last but not least, our good 'ole B-52's with tons of bunker-busting bombs would sure put a hurting on Iran's plans to carry on with their nuclear program.
It is imperitive that we do not screw this up. To kill the head of a snake, one must move very quickly so they do not have time to lob a few of their Sahab's over into Iraq, or worse yet, Isreal. If we are planning an attack we will only have really one good chance to kill their program. The bad thing is they know we are comeing and have undertaken drastic efforts to conceal their program with hardened shelters. The one thing do not know though is that when we attack, it will be at our lesiure.
I sure hope if Bush and his court of idiots ( w/exception of Condi. ) get the job done right the first time around. Failing is not an option this time around.
Can you see the Muslim world's reaction if we mess this up? It would only go to serve the fanaitics and give them a larger support platform to expouse their anti-Amer./ Isreal sentiment.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by xpert11
There is only one problem unless there is a regime any military action against Iran will be a long term failure.
Why is everyone so short sighted?

Dosnt anybody remember the failure of these kinds of wars in the 2nd half of the 20th century ?

Unless there is a regime change we will face the nuclear threat from Iran with in 30 years I would bet money on it.



I agree. This would be an action that simply delays the inevitable. If we want Iran nuclear free, we are going to need a contigency plan to invade. It isn't the best option, but realistically, we are going to need a regime change there. A stand off strike will simply prolong Irans time table to go nuclear.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 03:54 AM
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Of course, the Pentagon wants a diplomatic solution - but it is very clear that the U.S.also has plans to use military force if diplomatic efforts fail to thwart Iran's nuclear bomb ambitions.

The pentagon strategists were identifying targets, assessing weapon-loads and working on logistics for an operation:

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But also, Iran is willing to discuss Moscow's proposal (which is backed by the U.S. and the EU as a way to provide additional oversight of Iran's use of atomic fuel) to shift large-scale enrichment operations to Russian territory in an effort to allay suspicions; this talks are scheduled to begin in Moscow on Thursday.

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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 05:48 AM
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Iran has rejected that lame Russian proposal like 50 times, forget it,
Iran will have nuclear technology, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander (wtfs a gander, well anyways)..US will not dare attack, if they do Iran will fire missiles at it's bases in Iraq and launch those anti-ship missiles at American ships in the gulf, Iran has the capability to kill thousands of Americans in short order and the Americans do not have the capability to occupy Iran considering they're already tied down in Iraq and running up unprecidented debt to pay for their imperialist crap.

you guys keep saying US will attack if negotiations fail, negotiations have already failed, all monitoring equipment has been removed from the Natanz enrichment facility and it has begun not just research, but full scale enrichment.
so what the hell you waiting for, if your gonna do it, now would be a better time than March, when Bushier is in full operation w/o monitoring.
cut the crap , there not gonna be a war with Iran.

BTW if you think Iran doesn't already have nukes take a look at this link:
news.bbc.co.uk...

did you know..that to make a 'gun-type' nuke bomb (hiroshima) you don't even need a reactor, just enrichment..the chances Iran already have nukes isvery high don't believe this BS from the American media.."Iran is 5 years away from having the bomb"..yea right, they can build shahab 3s&4s and fighter planes and helicopters, but they can't heat and spin..whatever BTW the US developed nuke bombs 5 years before they developed jet-fighter planes..kinda makes you thnk..

so they already got the bomb, so why even bother with an attack, the enevitable has already occured..



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 06:42 AM
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You know i was just thinking and I'm sure others have probably thought of this before, now if Iran caves in and excepts Russian help at last minute do you think that Russia planned all this? like to see how the west would respond under these circumstances and Werther we would unite or divide on the situation? its possible.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 11:53 AM
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Should it come to military action, my hope is that the U.S. government will exterminate the Iranian people, that they will burn Iran to the ground, and tell the world that it's the Republican Party's Way or the Hell Way. No reconstruction, no "helping" the Iranian people. Destroy them.

Why? Because that's the only way anybody is going to gain any sanity, when they see what this all has been for.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Should it come to military action, my hope is that the U.S. government will exterminate the Iranian people, that they will burn Iran to the ground, and tell the world that it's the Republican Party's Way or the Hell Way. No reconstruction, no "helping" the Iranian people. Destroy them.

Why? Because that's the only way anybody is going to gain any sanity, when they see what this all has been for.


OR - all democrats could volunteer to move to both coasts and no action would be required at all, plus they would get to see what inaction wrought.


This is really not a dem vs rep issue - it is one that will affect everyone.

Seriously though no one wishes for what you have stated, what I really don't get is why the nations of the world do not come together to prevent the spread of these weapons while at the same time working towards reducing existing arsenals.

I thought that was the goal of the anti-nuclear movement but it seems to have morphed into something else altogether.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Should it come to military action, my hope is that the U.S. government will exterminate the Iranian people, that they will burn Iran to the ground, and tell the world that it's the Republican Party's Way or the Hell Way. No reconstruction, no "helping" the Iranian people. Destroy them.

Why? Because that's the only way anybody is going to gain any sanity, when they see what this all has been for.


and you americans act like the iranians are the ones who are crazy and hell bent on murder.

iran doesnt even have a nuke bomb and theres actually no solid evedence that they do have one or are even getting one and all this talk about murder. who are the real killers.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by iqonx
and you americans act like the iranians are the ones who are crazy and hell bent on murder.

iran doesnt even have a nuke bomb and theres actually no solid evedence that they do have one or are even getting one and all this talk about murder. who are the real killers.


And apparently, my satirical post failed its mission...

Basically, I think if we're gonna be crazy enough to fight Iran, we better make it a drive to extinction. No nation-building, none of this "bring freedom" crap that the federal government loves to throw around (but never actually implement).

Make it real, or don't go at all.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 08:04 PM
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you'll fry as well, the first nuke that hit's Iran, US cities and Israel will go up in mushroom clouds so cut your disgusting crap, not gonna be any nuking



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 09:25 PM
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All I'm saying is that I don't want this war to happen. But if it does, I don't want to see any more of this "we're saving the world" and "lets build a democracy (not!!!)" and "we're here to help the Iranian people" baloney. The American people have heard that stuff for the last five years and frankly, most of us are getting real sick of it.

If we're gonna start another war, I want the "problem" settled once and for all and plunder whatever it is the feds plan to plunder.

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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 09:46 PM
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War should be avoided at all costs. If it must be, though; then using the B2 for initial strikes will lower the casulties. All targets should be disabled before we send troops in there. B1's are more powerful, but lack the stealth capabilities of the B2.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 10:11 PM
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To start another war right now would be the action of a complete lunatic, therefore i have absolutely no doubt the plans are being drawn up and preparations are in the works to start it.

My only hope is this isn't some sort of, "We're just going to stop the nuclear program" kind of crap.

Kill the head and the body will die. Start at the top by killing every last member of the Iranian government and every mullah that a drone can spot and fire a hellfire missile at.

Completely cripple the infrastructure and the oil industry.

Then go after the nuke sites.

Lets face it, if they are busy trying to get the pipelines running and water treatment plants back up and maybe even a little electricity to the people, they won't have time to worry about the nuclear stuff.

We don't have to set one boot in the country to totally shut it down. All that needs to be done is fire enough missiles at the right targets.

But first, kill ALL the mullahs.

Just my thoughts,

Wupy




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