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Originally posted by Beachcoma
Excellent points, VelvetSplash. The MSM keep on showing visuals of violent protesters here, violent protesters there. Where are the visuals of the peaceful demonstrations?
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"I am not a National Security strategist or a military tactician," says John W. Rendon, Jr., whose DC-based PR firm was recently hired by the Pentagon to win over the hearts and minds of Arabs and Muslims worldwide.
"I am a politician," Rendon said in a 1998 speech to the National Security Conference (NSC), "and a person who uses communication to meet public policy or corporate policy objectives. In fact, I am an information warrior, and a perception manager....
The Rendon Group's work in Kuwait continued after the war itself had ended. "If any of you either participated in the liberation of Kuwait City ... or if you watched it on television, you would have seen hundreds of Kuwaitis waving small American flags," John Rendon said in his speech to the NSC. "Did you ever stop to wonder how the people of Kuwait City, after being held hostage for seven long and painful months, were able to get hand-held American flags? And for that matter, the flags of other coalition countries? Well, you now know the answer. That was one of my jobs."
In fact, the most emotionally moving testimony on October 10 came from a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, known only by her first name of Nayirah. According to the Caucus, Nayirah's full name was being kept confidential to prevent Iraqi reprisals against her family in occupied Kuwait. Sobbing, she described what she had seen with her own eyes in a hospital in Kuwait City. Her written testimony was passed out in a media kit prepared by Citizens for a Free Kuwait. "I volunteered at the al-Addan hospital," Nayirah said. "While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns, and go into the room where . . . babies were in incubators. They took the babies out of the incubators, took the incubators, and left the babies on the cold floor to die."83....
At the Human Rights Caucus, however, Hill & Knowlton and Congressman Lantos had failed to reveal that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family. Her father, in fact, was Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, who sat listening in the hearing room during her testimony. The Caucus also failed to reveal that H&K vice-president Lauri Fitz-Pegado had coached Nayirah in what even the Kuwaitis' own investigators later confirmed was false testimony.
The OSI came under scrutiny last February, when the New York Times reported (2/19/02) that the new Pentagon group was “developing plans to provide news items, possibly even false ones, to foreign media organizations.” The news was met with outrage, and within a week the Pentagon had closed down the OSI, saying that negative attention had damaged the office’s reputation so much “that it could not operate effectively" (AP, 2/26/02).
"And then there was the Office of Strategic Influence. You may recall that. And 'oh my goodness gracious isn't that terrible, Henny Penny the sky is going to fall.' I went down that next day and said fine, if you want to salvage this thing fine I'll give you the corpse. There's the name. You can have the name, but I'm gonna keep doing every single thing that needs to be done and I have. That was intended to be done by that office is being done by that office, NOT by that office in other ways."
Internet T-shirt Vendor Profits from Mohammed Cartoon Conflict
To see the latest creation from conservative t-shirt maker MetroSpy some would think the Muslim world had every right to be upset. MetroSpy's new t-shirts depict an unflattering caricature of the prophet Mohammed with a bomb on his head...
“We can't let the terrorists win. We can not encourage this uncivilized behavior by caving in to their wishes,” said Nate Thomas, product manager for MetroSpy
On their website (www.shopmetrospy.com...), MetroSpy denounces the tactics of Islamic extremists and encourages its customers to stand up against terrorism. "Failing to print these images mean the terrorists have won", the site says.
“We wanted a simple way to exercise our freedom of speech and to stand up to the terrorists. This design was perfect,” said Thomas.
"Failing to print these images mean the terrorists have won"
Originally posted by Umbrax
I tried visiting www.shopmetrospy.com to see what other shirts they are making but the connection keeps timing out.
Originally posted by loam
I trust no one in this carton issue...
Originally posted by WHOFLUNGGUM
Take for instance, Iran has offered $120 dollars to the twelve people that can come up with the best cartoon, lambasting the hollacaust...... the hollacaust for god's sake. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it a Danish paper that printed the cartoons that were drawn by Danes? What does that have to do with Israel, Jews and the Hollacaust? Typical Muslem reaction, which is the whole freaking point I am trying to make. The whole thing, whether manipulated or not is typical Muslem reaction.
Originally posted by Beachcoma
I keep trying to tell people that this is hardly representative of all muslims and people keep on making assertions that islam=bad=evil. Come on now, what good are generalizations?
Originally posted by Netchicken
When muslims, using their religion as justification, are commiting murder on a large scale because their religion tells them to, because they are told by their imams, because they are directed by their religious heirarchy, and expressly because they feel its their duty as muslims. How can you say that they are NOT representative?
We don't even hear about much of the violence committed in the name of islam.
Just what are westerners meant to believe?
I think that change will only come when the empty words "Islam is a religion of peace" that are chanted out in the media by Islamic speakers is challanged, when muslims themselves are forced to concede that there are serious problems in their belief structures, that Islam seems to produce some of the most seriously warped sub groups on the planet at present.